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What We’re Reading (Week Ending 02 November 2025)

The best articles we’ve read in recent times on a wide range of topics, including investing, business, and the world in general.

We’ve constantly been sharing a list of our recent reads in our weekly emails for The Good Investors.

Do subscribe for our weekly updates through the orange box in the blog (it’s on the side if you’re using a computer, and all the way at the bottom if you’re using mobile) – it’s free!

But since our readership-audience for The Good Investors is wider than our subscriber base, we think sharing the reading list regularly on the blog itself can benefit even more people. The articles we share touch on a wide range of topics, including investing, business, and the world in general. 

Here are the articles for the week ending 02 November 2025:

1. Do We Want an Age of AI Robopets? – Jessica Roy

One August morning, Kaarage woke up and took the train from the Japanese countryside into the city. She went to a restaurant and enjoyed a lunch of vegetables and soup, as well as an iced coffee. Afterward, she studied a musical score on her iPad, then went home to relax.

Kaarage is not a person: She’s an internet-beloved Moflin, an AI-powered robopet made by Casio—yes, Casio—who shares a charming, bucolic life with her owner in rural Japan…

…Since Casio initially released Moflins last year in Japan, they’ve proven to be a surprise hit, with the company selling several million dollars’ worth of Moflins in a matter of months. Last month, Casio made them available in the U.S. too, offering the furry-haired critters on its website for $429 a pop in two colors: gold and silver…

…Casio markets them as an “AI companion and robot pet” that can offer “quiet reassurance,” “ease stress” and “bring comfort.” (Watch out, loneliness epidemic.) The wellness language here is purposeful—a very real attempt to imagine the softer, cuddlier side of AI…

…The fandom and internet subcultures devoted to the robopets include a Reddit board where Moflin owners share fur-care tips and celebrate their Moflins’ “50-day” birthdays, the point when Casio says the AI pet has fully studied its owners’ vocal tones and can best respond to them in a series of purrs and coos audible through a tiny, built-in speaker beneath their fur. In Japan, hardcore Moflin owners can even spend $49 annually to join Casio’s Moflin Membership Club, which gives them access to health checkups (for maintenance issues, like charging problems) and appointments at a salon to take care of their Moflins’ fur…

…The Moflin, which weighs as much as a small rabbit, comes equipped with an app, several auditory and touch-based sensors, and a battery that lasts about five hours. (It charges in a soup bowl–shaped bed.)…

… Its only facial feature is two beady eyes. This is by design.

“We intentionally avoided features like ears, tails or distinct facial characteristics because making them look like a real creature would only emphasize how they differ from one,” said Casio developer Daisuke Takeuchi. “The abstract design allows each person to interpret who Moflin is to them, which helps build a more personal bond.”

Moflins rely on what Casio calls “emotional AI” to learn and respond to their environments, developing different personalities based on their owners’ interactions. The companion app, MofLife, allows users to track a Moflin’s mood to see how affectionate and energetic it feels…

…Amy Wang, 27, of New York. Wang has bad allergies and a small apartment, so a real pet was out of the question, but she said her Moflin, which she named Roku, provides much of the same emotional support a pet would…

…Whether the Moflin appealing to a younger demographic is a good thing remains to be seen. Nataliya Kosmyna, a research scientist at Massachusetts Institute of Technology’s Media Lab who focuses on AI, said there’s not a huge amount of research into the effects of soft AI, like that used by the Moflin, on children’s brains, but that’s exactly the issue: Kosmyna argues there should be more research into the impact of emotional AI toys on kids before they hit the market. 

2. Argentina Could Be a Superpower – Tomas Pueyo

Argentina used to be rich.

Its capital, Buenos Aires, was “the Paris of South America”.

For decades, Argentina (which means “the country of silver”) was among the richest countries on Earth—richer than France, Germany, Japan, or Italy…

…Not only did the Western world leave Argentina behind. Traditionally poorer countries like Chile and China are now richer! And Brazil is catching up!

How is this possible?

Because, unlike most countries I write about, Argentina is poor despite its amazing geography. With better management, it could become the United States of Latin America…

…Argentina is basically the US of the Southern Hemisphere:

  • Very similar defensibility, with oceans, mountains, and ice on three sides, and weak neighbors on the other
  • The huge exception is Argentina’s neighbor, Brazil.
  • Very similar land and climate, allowing for a world-class agriculture industry and cheap infrastructure.
  • A very similar navigable river basin in the heartland, helping reduce transportation costs, and creating wealth and political harmony, all controlled from Buenos Aires.
  • Huge, untapped mineral deposits.

Despite these striking advantages, Argentina has not been able to translate them into immigration and wealth. Geography is not destiny.

One way to put it: Geography is the hardware, our institutions are the software. When both work well, a country is unstoppable. With bad hardware but intelligent software, a country can go far. But it’s easy to waste good hardware with very bad software. This is what Argentina has done. Another way to put it: Geography is the chessboard: How you play on it determines your success, and Argentina hasn’t played very well.

3. The AI Boom’s Real Economy Problem – Bob Elliott

Meta’s release showed revenue grew 26% from the same quarter last year, or roughly 10bln, claiming that AI is now helping improve the way ads are being placed on the platform. The ads of course being the only source of revenue for the business…

…On the surface those numbers sound great for any company, but in context it’s a pretty mediocre outcome. For instance the rise of 26% y/y is only at a marginally faster rate than previous years 3Q reads which grew 19% and 23% respectively. All that AI investment for a few extra percentage points.

To achieve these goals Meta is spending upwards of $70bln on AI capex to say nothing of rising operational expenses all chasing the hope that it’ll drive increased income…

…Of course all the AI investment is driving more income, but at best it’s maybe 3-5bln more than they would have had relative to the underlying trends pre capex spend. I’m no individual company analyst, but investing 70bln/yr to get 3-5bln/yr of revenue seems like a pretty shitty ROI…

…The whole sector faces the same basic problem. Already they are spending upwards of 60% of their operating cash flow on CAPEX at this point…

…The math is pretty simple, unless there is a surge in revenues from these activities, big tech is going to pump nearly all their free cash flow into CAPEX in just a few years…

…Blowing all this cash on investment means that they need to start to generate significant incremental cash flow from their investment on real economy activities (not just self referential activities to each other on things like cloud, etc)…

…Cumulative investment has surged and yet actual revenues either direct or indirect from these activities has been, has been … lets call it subdued…

…But the reality is that there are already signs that the AI adoption curve for companies is starting to bend downward even as forward expectations are high, a real threat to the idea that revenues will surge ahead…

…Increasing revenue may not be the primary benefit of AI for the economy, because most of the benefit will come in the form of increased efficiencies…

…But higher margins do not come free of impact. Workers earnings by definition finance the vast majority of spending in the real economy. So the trouble is that if you fire a bunch of workers, they have less income to spend, and with less revenue earned. The real economy realities make what looks like a free lunch actually a drag.

4. Is AI Eating CSI? – Dragon Field

As the ChatGPT turns three in November 2025, the most popular recent riff is “AI is eating SaaS”, which has claimed countless victims of the once popular software companies such as Duolingo, Shutterstock, Coursera, Gartner, Adobe, and Constellation Software. Everyday we have hundreds of TikTok influencers and YouTubers hyping the notion that even people without any coding experience and no technical education can simply type a few prompts into ChatGPT, and the AI will automatically create a software application in a few minutes. We also have high-profile tech CEOs like Ali Ghodsi of Databricks and Satya Nadella of Microsoft all announcing that “AI is eating SaaS”.

In fact, the expression that “AI is eating software” was first mentioned by the Nvidia CEO Jensen Huang in a 2017 LinkedIn post…

…About 25 years ago, I became an IT operations manager for a metal stamping plant for one of the Detroit Big Three auto companies. The plant is 2.4 million square feet, sitting on 118 acres of land. It produces automotive parts like hoods, door panels, bumpers, floor pans, and hundreds of other smaller parts. The plant had about 1,600 employees working three 8-hour shifts for six days a week at the time. At its peak in the 1950s, the plant had several hundred presses and employed over 6,000 people…

…In stamping plants we don’t usually let the manufacturing execution system (MES) have full control of the production because if the IT system is down, we would not shutdown the press lines. This is a situation we call “running blind” and usually you want to restore the system as quickly as you can. In addition, our VMS system was integrated with our warehouse inventory and corporate ERP systems, so a sustained downtime can cause a lot of issues thus we consider it mission-critical. Accuracy and reliability are the most important for us.

At the core of our MES is a VMS for production monitoring. It was first developed in the 1980s by a small vendor in Michigan when the US Big Three auto companies started to automate and install IT systems in their manufacturing plants…

…This VMS is deeply imbedded in every aspect of our production and workflow as depicted in the chart below. It has integration with our ERP system that is running on IBM mainframe with blue screens. It’s used by most departments in the plant, even the Finance and HR people use the system regularly for production and labor hour reports…

…For many years, this small VMS vendor only had three employees: One hardware engineer who liked to hide in the workshop fiddling with all kinds of gadget, a software engineer who focused on the the software development and upgrades, and the third engineer who worked as the leader and the face of their company…

…For many years, we also tried to find a replacement for this VMS, either from another vendor or develop one by our own internal IT. Sometimes the pressure from my own IT headquarters was intense. Like most legacy VMS systems, this VMS was first procured by the business people and they did not confirm to our new IT standards. They called VMS like this “Shadow IT”. Our internal IT spent a few million dollar developed a replacement and it was pushed to many plants. It caused a lot of trouble to the business and headache to the manufacturing IT operations. Because the new system did not well, we had to keep the old vendor system running in a “passive mode” in case the new system broke. It was also needed to run data collection layer, the barcode system, and to provide data via SMS to the phones and emails. When our new system acted up (which happened a lot especially in the early years), we would quickly switch back to the old “passive” vendor system. We ended spending a lot of more money and manpower plus it tarnished IT’s reputation.

The last time (~7-8 years ago) I heard about the VMS and its vendor was when a friend mentioned to me my former company had decided they would retire the new corporate system and reverse back to the old vendor system (which was never truly replaced anyway). They announced the older vendor VMS the new corporate standard and called it “strategic”. The vendor had to hire a couple more engineers to support the added scope.

5. Stumbling Onto a Goldmine – Joe Raymond

One sunny afternoon in the late-80s (more than a decade after the Interstate Stores transaction), Larry and Nate were having lunch together on Long Island.

After eating, Nate asked Larry if they could swing by the bank so he could make a deposit. Larry was enjoying the good weather and friendly company. “Sure,” he said, “Let’s do it.”

They walked into the bank and up to the counter to grab a deposit slip.

Larry noticed on the counter a copy of the bank’s most recent quarterly balance sheet. It was one of the cleanest, most secure bank balance sheets he’d ever seen…

…He looked around the lobby and saw on the other side of the room a thick wood door with a big brass knob and the word “PRESIDENT” emblazoned across the front…

…A man in a suit opened the door and asked how he could help.

“You have a beautiful balance sheet,” Larry said. “I’d love to know how and why this came to be, and if there are any other banks out there like yours!”

The president invited Larry into his office and explained to him how the bank had recently converted from a mutual to a stock bank….

…Imagine a make-believe mutual bank with $1 million of tangible equity. Let’s say this bank wants to convert to a stock bank and offers 100,000 shares at $10 per share in an IPO. Only depositors are invited to participate in the offering.

On a pro forma basis, the converted bank will have $2 million of tangible equity (the original $1 million plus the $1 million of IPO proceeds), which equates to $20 per share of tangible book value ($2 million of equity divided by 100,000 shares).

As an IPO investor, you were able to purchase the shares at $10. You paid only 50% of tangible book value…

…The president explained all of this to Larry, including how he himself had made a killing on the bank’s conversion…

…”You should check out this little bank in Queens,” he said. “They are preparing for a conversion themselves, and I think it will be a good one.”

That little bank in Queens was called Jamaica Savings Bank. And JSB ended up being a killer investment…

…Less than two years later, on June 24, 1990, JSB Financial went public. Santa Monica bought 59,000 shares at $10 per share for an initial investment of $590,000. The pro-forma book value was $21 per share (0.48x P/TBV)…

…The shares shot up 30% to $13 right after the IPO. Many investors sold for a quick profit. Larry decided to hold on as he saw a bigger pot of gold down the line…

…BVPS could be north of $25 within three years and the company would be worth $35 per share to a strategic buyer at 1.4x TBV. This works out to a 51% annualized return over three years.

Given the nature of the balance sheet (liquid, overcapitalized, and invested primarily in short-term government securities), the downside was minimal.

Thus, Larry found himself in investment nirvana: low downside paired with big upside.

JSB became an avid repurchaser of its own stock, buying back 7% of its outstanding shares in 1991 and another 8% in 1992…

…The share count was further reduced by 10% in 1993, 9% in 1994, 2% in 1995, and 7% in 1996. Shares outstanding fell by a cumulative 38% from 1990 to 1998. And most of these buybacks were done at or below tangible book value…

…JSB entered a stock-for-stock merger with North Fork Bank (NFB) in 1999. Every one share of JSB received three shares of NFB…

…As for Larry, he held onto his stock until NFB sold to COF, at which point he elected to receive cash. The $590,000 investment in 1990 turned into more than $5.5 million in 2006.


Disclaimer: The Good Investors is the personal investing blog of two simple guys who are passionate about educating Singaporeans about stock market investing. By using this Site, you specifically agree that none of the information provided constitutes financial, investment, or other professional advice. It is only intended to provide education. Speak with a professional before making important decisions about your money, your professional life, or even your personal life. We currently have a vested interest in Adobe, Mastercard, Meta Platforms, Microsoft, and Visa. Holdings are subject to change at any time.

The View On Consumer Spending From The Largest Payments Companies

Mastercard and Visa can feel the pulse of consumer spending – what are they seeing now?

Mastercard (NYSE: MA) and Visa (NYSE: V) are two of the largest payments companies in the world. As a result, they have a great view on consumer spending that’s taking place. With both companies reporting their earnings results for the third quarter of 2025 earlier last week, the bottom line is that consumer spending remains strong in the USA and other parts of the world. Here’s what they are seeing.

*What’s shown in italics between the two horizontal lines below are quotes from Mastercard and Visa’s management teams that I picked up from their earnings conference calls.


From Mastercard

1. Management sees consumer and business spending remaining healthy, supported by steady inflation, a balanced labour market, wage growth, and rising financial markets, although there remains macro uncertainty; management remains positive about Mastercard’s growth outlook

We continue to see healthy consumer and business spending in the quarter with the macroeconomic environment still generally supportive. Inflation levels have remained fairly steady and labor markets remain well balanced. Financial markets were near record highs, further contributing to the wealth effect, which helps stimulate spend. Given this backdrop and our diversified business, we are positioned well for ongoing success…

…The macroeconomic environment is supportive with balanced unemployment rates, wage growth continuing to outpace the rate of inflation for the most part and the wealth effect remaining intact. That said, there continues to be some ongoing geopolitical and economic uncertainty.

2. Worldwide GDV (gross dollar volume) was up 9% year-on-year in constant-currency basis; cross-border volume was up 15% globally in constant-currency, driven by both travel and non-travel cross-border spending (cross-border volume growth was 15% in 2025 Q2); switched transactions was up 10% year-on-year; card growth was 6% in 2025 Q3, with Mastercard ending the quarter with 3.6 billion cards in circulation (there were 3.6 billion cards in 2025 Q2, and year-on-year growth was 6% then); on currency-neutral basis, domestic assessments were up 6%, cross-border assessments were up 16% and transaction processing assessments were up 15%

Let’s first look at some of our key volume drivers for the third quarter on a local currency basis. Worldwide gross dollar volume or GDV increased by 9% year-over-year. In the U.S., GDV increased by 7% with credit growth of 7% and debit growth of 7%. Outside of the U.S., volume increased 10% with credit growth of 10% and debit growth of 9%. Overall, cross-border volume increased 15% globally for the quarter, reflecting continued growth in both travel and non-travel related cross-border spending…

…Switched transactions grew 10% year-over-year in Q3…

…Card growth was 6%. Globally, there are 3.6 billion Mastercard and Maestro-branded cards issued…

…Again, all growth rates are described on a currency-neutral basis, unless otherwise noted. Looking quickly at each key metric. Domestic assessments were up 6%, while worldwide GDV grew 9%. The 3 ppt difference is primarily driven by mix. Cross-border assessments increased 16%, while cross-border volumes increased 15%. The 1 ppt difference is driven by pricing in international markets, partially offset by mix. Transaction processing assessments were up 15%, while switch transactions grew 10%. On an unrounded basis, the 4 ppt difference is primarily due to favorable mix as well as some benefit from pricing and revenue from FX volatility.

3. In 2025 Q3, Mastercard’s operating metrics remained strong; in October 2025 so far, Mastercard’s operating metrics continue to be strong with worldwide switched volume growth of 9% (5% in the USA, and 12% outside of the USA), switched transactions growth of 10%, and cross-border volume growth of 15%; US switched volume had a sequential decline in October 2025 compared to 2025 Q3 and September 2025 (5% versus 8% and 7%) because of the expected migration of debit volume by Capital One; management sees consumer and business spending remaining healthy; management is seeing steady growth across both affluent and mass market consumers, although the composition of the spend between discretionary and non-discretionary is different 

Starting with Q3, all our switch metrics are generally in line with Q2 and remained strong. As we look to the first 4 weeks of October, our metrics continue to remain strong, generally in line with the third quarter. Of note, U.S. switched volumes saw a sequential decline, primarily due to the expected Capital One debit migration as well as some tougher comps related to weather impacts in 2024. Overall, we continue to see healthy consumer and business spending…

…When we do our analysis based on looks of the various products we have out in the market, which serve the affluent population versus the mass market population as well as when we look at the amount of spend which is taking place across different categories of products that we have. What we’re seeing is continued steady growth, both across affluent and mass market, true in the U.S., true across the globe. So overall, the consumer continues to spend…

…You can expect that consumers at different income levels make different decisions on their spend, discretionary versus non-discretionary. What matters for us is, it has to be carded and that plays in, and that adds up to the resilient trends that Sachin just talked about…

…When I was talking about the first 4 weeks of October on U.S. volumes, right? It’s certainly the Capital One piece as well as the lapping effect due to weather impacts we had in 2024. So, it’s a combination of both of those, which reflects on the 8% number that you’re seeing in Q3 going to 5%. But it’s important to also look at what the growth rate in September was, because 8% is the average across all of Q3. So, it’s kind of this step change, which takes place as cards migrate that you’re going to start to see the volume come down.

From Visa

1. US payments volume growth was good at 8% in 2025 Q3 (FY2025 Q4), with e-commerce growing faster than physical spend; credit and debit volume were both up 8%, reflecting a resilient consumer; growth across consumer spend bands remained relatively consistent with Q3 with the highest spend band continuing to grow the fastest

U.S. payments volume was up 8%, slightly above Q3 with e-commerce growing faster than face-to-face spend. Credit and debit were both up 8%, reflecting resilience in consumer spending. When we look at quarterly spend category data in the U.S., we saw broad-based strength, including improvements in retail services and goods, travel and fuel. Both discretionary and nondiscretionary spend were up from Q3. And growth across consumer spend bands remained relatively consistent with Q3 with the highest spend band continuing to grow the fastest.

2. Visa’s cross-border volume growth remained strong in 2025 Q3 (FY2025 Q4) compared to 11% year-on-year growth in 2025 Q2; there was a strong performance from e-commerce and travel

Q4 total cross-border volume was up 11% year-over-year relatively stable to last quarter, with e-commerce up 13%, and travel improving sequentially to 10%. eCommerce remains strong as it has for the last 8 quarters now and still represented about 40% of our total cross-border volume. Travel spend continued to grow above pre-COVID levels. The slight step-up from Q3 was led by a combination of factors, including increased commercial volumes, helped by our efforts in virtual card and some improvement in CEMEA outbound due to holiday timing.

3. Payments volume on Visa’s network continues to grow in October 2025, with US payments volume up 7%, cross-border volume up over 12%, and e-commerce volume up 14%

Moving to Q1. Through October 21, with volume growth in constant dollars, U.S. payments volume was up 7%, with credit and debit both up 7%. Process transactions grew 9% year-over-year. For constant dollar cross-border volume, excluding transactions within Europe, total volume grew 12% year-over-year, with eCommerce up 14% and travel up 11%.


Disclaimer: The Good Investors is the personal investing blog of two simple guys who are passionate about educating Singaporeans about stock market investing. By using this Site, you specifically agree that none of the information provided constitutes financial, investment, or other professional advice. It is only intended to provide education. Speak with a professional before making important decisions about your money, your professional life, or even your personal life. I currently have a vested interest in Mastercard and Visa. Holdings are subject to change at any time.

What We’re Reading (Week Ending 26 October 2025)

The best articles we’ve read in recent times on a wide range of topics, including investing, business, and the world in general.

We’ve constantly been sharing a list of our recent reads in our weekly emails for The Good Investors.

Do subscribe for our weekly updates through the orange box in the blog (it’s on the side if you’re using a computer, and all the way at the bottom if you’re using mobile) – it’s free!

But since our readership-audience for The Good Investors is wider than our subscriber base, we think sharing the reading list regularly on the blog itself can benefit even more people. The articles we share touch on a wide range of topics, including investing, business, and the world in general. 

Here are the articles for the week ending 26 October 2025:

1. Sanity Check – The Brooklyn Investor

When I say that if 10-year Treasury yields stay at around 4%, then the market should average a P/E of around 25x over time, it sounds crazy, but given that the market has traded at 22-23x P/E in the last 35 years, this is not so crazy to me.

Of course, one can come back to me and say, well, as much as 22-23x P/E was shocking in 1990, who’s to say that the market can’t shock us again, going back to 6-7% interest rates and 14x P/E ratio over the next 20? This is also true. I can’t say that can’t happen. But I’ve always said that I think 4% or so 10-year rate seems reasonable given 4% nominal GDP growth over time.

So, given that, how does the market look today? The market today looks like it is priced correctly. The 10-year Treasury rate is 4% today, and the S&P 500 index P/E is 25.5x, almost exactly where it should be according to the model. Next year’s estimate P/E is 22x.

In past bubbles, the rubber band was stretched. The table below is from an earlier post. Just before Black Monday, the rubber band was stretched as 10-year rates spiked to close to 10% while the earnings yield declined to 4.7%, creating a near 5% gap. On a price basis, the market was overvalued by 100%! During the internet bubble, the gap increased to 1.5% and the market was overpriced 40%. Today, there is no stretch in the rubber band…

…So, the other thing is all this talk about an AI bubble. It is really interesting and I have no idea what is going to happen. But there seems to be two extreme views that both can’t be right. On the one hand, some people fear all these trillions being invested into AI infrastructure (energy, data centers etc.) will not offer decent returns on investments as there is still very little revenue associated with many of these big AI models. On the other hand, there is a big fear that AI will wipe out entire industries. There are already reports that huge increases in productivity is being actualized in the coding world, so much that the word is that entry level computer science positions are completely gone, wiped out. Big tech have also been firing a lot of engineers as they are replaced by AI.

They both can’t be right.

Here’s some bogus math, just as a sanity check too. Let’s say AI replaces 10% of jobs in the U.S. There are 160 million workers in the U.S. Ridding 10% of them is 16 million jobs gone. Many of these replaced jobs will be office jobs (well, AI will eventually replace Uber and truck drivers, farmers, factory workers too). Let’s say office workers cost companies $100K / year, including benefits. I’ve heard this somewhere before. That’s $1.6 trillion in expenses that you can cut. How much would you be willing to invest to cut $1.6 trillion?

You are now talking about trillions of dollars in investments. Now, all those numbers people throw around don’t sound so silly anymore. Of course, you can’t just say spending $10 trillion to eliminate $1.6 trillion is a 16% return on investment, as AI costs money to keep running / maintaining and you need to replace servers every 3-5 years etc. But still, you start to see the magnitude of what can happen if AI really starts to replace workers.

2. How Silver Flooded the World – Tomas Pueyo

A century earlier, around 1350, the Black Death spread across Europe, killing 25-50% of its population.

Men were dying, but coins were not.—David Herlihy

For a century, there was more coin than people, so they didn’t notice when silver and gold production slowed down. But it did; first, because of fewer miners.

Second, because mines ran out of gold and silver.

Third, the supply of gold from Africa collapsed after the Mali Empire civil war in the 1360s and the Songhai Empire instability.

Fourth, mines in southeastern Europe, in Serbia and Bosnia, fell to the Ottoman Empire.

So new sources of silver and gold shrunk. Meanwhile, silver sinks continued. Europeans kept buying Chinese silks, Indian cotton cloth, dyes, and spices, Middle Eastern sugar and drugs… But Europeans had little to export: wine, slaves, wood, salt, and little more. Italian traders paid one third in merchandise and two thirds in precious metals.

As silver and gold became scarcer, people started debasing the currency: Diluting it with other metals, clipping its edges…

Between the Black Death, the scarcity of metals, the debasement of currency, the incessant warfare, and taxes, people did everything they could to hoard and hide their precious metals, whether through hidden coins, filled chests, plates, and any other conceivable way…

…When we say some resource is exhausted, what we generally mean is… with current technology. People abandoned mines when they couldn’t figure out how to reach more ore, or when they couldn’t get more metal out of them.

One of the most typical issues was that ore is in mountains, but mountains also have something else: rain. Mining shafts would get flooded, so mining was restricted to the surface…

…Romans knew about waterwheels and pumps, but they never used them for extracting water out of mines. Central Europeans put them together into ever more complex systems to dry up mines and extract more ore…

…But there were two significant innovations that allowed Europe to increase its silver production by 5x between the 1460s and the 1540s.

Both innovations were new processes to extract more silver from ore. The first one is called liquation, and was first discovered in southern Germany in the mid-1400s, just as the Great Bullion Famine was hitting hardest. Of course, that’s not a coincidence: It was the bullion famine that was spurring mining innovation. Within 15 years, it had spread throughout Germany, Poland and the Italian Alps…

…We’ve already explored how Portugal’s discovery of an alternative path to Asia was made to bypass the Ottomans, who had taken control of Istanbul and blocked Christian trade through the Silk Road. But that trade still required gold and silver, and Europe didn’t have any. So the Portuguese were also looking for gold and silver deposits to mine. They found some in Western Africa—remember the Mali Empire—but that was not enough.

Now you know why Spanish Conquistadors were so obsessed about finding gold and silver in the Americas. It was not just a matter of greed. It was an existential matter for Europeans after the Great Bullion Famine. This is why Columbus mentioned gold 65 times in his diaries!

Spaniards didn’t find much gold in the Americas, but they did find silver. Unfortunately, the high-quality silver ore quickly ran out, and Spaniards were left with ore that didn’t contain enough silver to be extracted.

That’s when they invented a new technique to get more silver from the lower quality ore: amalgamation, via the patio process.

3. Microsoft’s Cloud & AI Head on the AI Buildout’s Risks and ROI (Transcript Here) – Alex Kantrowitz and Scott Guthrie

Alex Kantrowitz: I totally understand that, but I have to go back to the diminishing returns of training question. Where do you stand on that?

Scott Guthrie: If you look at training broadly, I think you’re going to continue to see more value from the models by doing more training. But going back to my answer earlier, I don’t know if that’s always going to be pre-training. I think increasingly lots of post-training activities are going to significantly change the value of the model. By post-training I mean take the base model and how do you add financial data or healthcare data or something that’s very specific to an application or a use case.

What’s nice about post-training is that you don’t have to do it in one large data center in one location. Part of the technique that we’ve been focused on is how do we take this inferencing capacity around the world and a lot of it is idle at night as people go to sleep. How are we doing increasingly post-training in a distributed fashion across many different sites? Then when employees come to work in the morning, we serve the applications. Having that kind of flexibility and being able to dynamically schedule your AI infrastructure so that you’re maximizing revenue generation and training ideally in a very swappable dynamic way—I think is one of the things we’re investing in heavily and I think is one of the differentiators for Microsoft.

Alex Kantrowitz: Okay, but you’ll forgive me for going back to this scaling pre-training question. I’m just trying to see what you believe here. You haven’t said it outright, but from your answers, it does seem to me like you believe that spending wildly on scaling pre-training is a bad bet.

Scott Guthrie: I wouldn’t necessarily say that. I think we’ve definitely seen as the scale infrastructure for pre-training has gotten bigger, we are seeing the models continually improve and we’re investing in those types of pre-training sites and infrastructure. We recently, for example, announced our Fairwater data center regions around the US. We have multiple Fairwaters. We did a blog post recently of one of our new sites in Wisconsin. These are hundreds of megawatts, hundreds of thousands of the latest GB200s and GB300 GPUs. We think the largest contiguous block of GPUs anywhere in the world in one giant training infrastructure that can be used for pre-training. We’re investing heavily in that, as you could see from the photos from the sky in terms of massive infrastructure. We do continue to see the scaling laws improve.

Now will the scaling laws improve linearly? Will they improve at the rate that they have? I think that is a question that everyone right now in the AI space is still trying to calculate. But do I think they’ll improve? Yes. The question really around what’s the rate of improvement on pre-training? I do think with post-training, we’re going to continue to see dramatic improvements. That’s again why we’re trying to make sure we have a balanced investment both on pre-training and post-training infrastructure.

Alex Kantrowitz: Just to parse your words here, you can see improvement by doubling the data center, but that’s why I use the word bet—because are you going to get the same return if it doesn’t improve exponentially and just improves on the margins? That I think is the big question right now, right?

Scott Guthrie: It’s a big question. The thing that also makes it the big question is it’s not like a law of nature that’s immovable. There could be one breakthrough that actually changes the scaling laws for better, and there could be a lack of breakthroughs that means things will still improve but do they improve at the same rate that they historically did from a raw size and scale perspective? That is the trillion dollar question…

…Scott Guthrie: Yeah, going back to the comments we had earlier on balance, I think as you think about your GPU buildout, one of the things that we think about is the lifetime of the GPU and how we use it. What you use it for in year one or two might be very different than how you use it in year three, four, five, or six. So far we’ve always been able to use our GPUs, even ones that we deployed multiple years ago, for different use cases and get positive ROI from it. That’s why our depreciation cycle for GPUs is what it is…

…Scott Guthrie: If you are for example building one large data center that only does training and it’s not connected to a wide area network around the world that’s close to the users, it’s hard to use that same infrastructure for inferencing because you can’t go faster than the speed of light. Someone elsewhere around the world that wants to call that GPU—if you don’t have the network to support it, you can’t use it for those inferencing needs…

…Alex Kantrowitz: Okay. All right. It’s good to get something definitive on that. You mentioned your 39% Azure growth. I’m looking at your quarterly numbers every quarter and often talking about them on CNBC and the numbers are massive. The other side of it though is that’s spend coming from clients, right? There have been multiple studies that have come out recently that have talked about how enterprises aren’t getting the ROI that they’ve anticipated on their AI projects yet. When you see those studies, do they ring true to you? How do you react to them?

Scott Guthrie: I think when you say AI in general, it’s a very broad statement.

Alex Kantrowitz: This is in large part generative AI where companies everywhere have tried to adopt LLMs and try to put some version of that into play. It’s not recommender engines basically.

Scott Guthrie: But I think what you need to do is double-click even further from GenAI to GitHub Copilot or healthcare or Microsoft 365 Copilot or security products built with GenAI. I do think ultimately, the closer you can double-click on is this really delivering ROI, then you have much more precise data.

I do think a lot of companies have dabbled or done internal proof of concepts and some of them have paid off and some of them haven’t. But I think ultimately a lot of the solutions that are paying off that we continually hear from our clients and our customers are a bunch of the applications that we’ve built. Similarly, a bunch of the applications that our partners have built on top of us. Ultimately the Azure business is consumption-based, meaning if people aren’t actually running something, we don’t get paid. It’s not like they’re pre-buying a ton of stuff. We recognize our revenue based on when it’s used.

The good news is when you look at our revenue growth, it’s not a bookings number. It’s actually a consumption number. You can tell that people are consuming more. The last two quarters, our revenue growth has accelerated on a big number. That is a statement of the fact that I think people are getting a lot of ROI, at least with the projects that they’re running on top of our cloud…

…Scott Guthrie: I think increasing the number of tokens you can get per watt per dollar is going to be the game over the next couple years. Maximizing the ability of our cloud to deliver the best volume of tokens for every watt of power, for every dollar that’s spent—where the dollar is spent on energy, it’s spent on the GPUs, it’s spent on the data center infrastructure, it’s spent on the network, and it’s spent on everything else—is the thing that we’re laser-focused on. There’s a bunch of steps as part of that, GPUs being a critical component of it.

One of the things that our scale gives us the ability to do is to invest for nonlinear improvements in that type of productivity and that type of yield. If you’ve got a million dollars of revenue on a couple hundred GPUs, you’re not going to be investing in custom silicon. When you’re at our scale, you will be. You’re not just investing in custom silicon for GPUs for pre-training or for inferencing. You’re looking at what could we be doing for synthetic data generation with silicon. What can we be doing from a network compression perspective with custom silicon? What can we be doing from a security perspective?

We have bets across all of those, many of which are now in production and are actually powering a lot of these AI experiences. In fact, I think every GPU server that we’re running in the fleet right now is using custom silicon at the networking, compression, storage layer that we’ve built. The GPUs themselves are also going to be a prize that people are going to try to optimize—the actual instructions for doing the GPUs.

Nvidia is a fantastic partner of ours. We’re probably one of, if not the biggest customer in the world of theirs. We partner super deeply with Jensen and his team. At the same time, and partly why they’re so successful is they’re executing incredibly well. If you look at the history of silicon, it’s rare to have a silicon company that every single year is doing the absolute perfect work that’s differentiated. Kudos to Jensen for what he’s done, and I know he’s going to keep trying to do it going forward. But there will be other opportunities from other companies where people are going to look for a niche that’s going to be big enough in this AI space to be truly differentiated versus what Nvidia is delivering. Then we’re doing our own silicon investment in-house because we’re going to be going after those same opportunities.

Ultimately, the way we’ve tried to build our infrastructure, none of our customers know when they’re using Microsoft 365 or GitHub or any open models what silicon they’re running on. We’re going to be constantly tuning the use cases based on the applications. If we find ways that are breakthroughs, we’re absolutely going to be taking advantage of them for those use cases. At our balance of scale and our balance of use cases, I’m very confident that we’re going to find use cases where custom silicon will make a difference. I’m also very confident we’re going to continue to be a great partner to Nvidia and others in the world that are going to be selling us great solutions.

4. The coming debt deluge? – Abdullah Al-Rezwan

For example, last week Meta entered in a Joint Venture (JV) with Blue Owl Capital for their $27-Billion Hyperion Data Center campus, of which Meta will own 20% and the rest will be owned by funds managed by Blue Owl Capital. Meta is signing an “operating lease” with an initial term of only four years. They have the option to extend the lease every four years, but they are not obligated to.

To persuade the JV to accept the short four-year leases, Meta provided a “Residual Value Guarantee” (RVG) covering the first 16 years of operations. If Meta decides to leave (by not renewing or terminating the lease) within the first 16 years, they guarantee the campus will still be worth a certain amount of money (undisclosed). This payment is “capped” i.e. there is a pre-agreed maximum limit to how much Meta would have to pay. Again, we don’t know the exact capped limit in this deal.

The structure of this deal, featuring short 4-year leases combined with a long-term RVG on a highly specialized asset, closely resembles a financial tool known as a Synthetic Lease.

In a synthetic lease, the tenant (Meta) gains the flexibility of short commitments and favorable accounting treatment (keeping the debt off their balance sheet). However, to convince investors (Blue Owl Capital) to fund the construction, the tenant must assume the majority of the financial risks of ownership. The RVG achieves this risk transfer. To secure financing for such a massive, specialized asset, this cap must be set very high. While we don’t know the exact number, my guess is it’s likely somewhere between 80% to 90%. If we assume it to be 85%, for the $27 Billion Hyperion campus, Meta’s maximum possible exposure is $22.95 Billion.

If Meta decides to terminate the lease within the 16-year RVG period, the payout is determined by the following calculation:

Guaranteed Value at time of exit – Actual Market Value = Shortfall

Meta pays the shortfall, but only up to the agreed-upon cap (estimated at $22.95B)…

…Given Meta’s backing, the bonds issued to fund this investment received investment grade credit rating. However, the bonds were issued at 6.58% yield which is closer to junk bond yield.

Why is the yield so high? If the value of the data center catastrophically collapses due to obsolescence or for some other reasons, Meta’s RVG covers most of the loss, but the investors bear the portion exceeding the cap. Moreover, the debt belongs to the project entity, it is “structurally subordinated” to Meta’s own corporate debt. Investors demand a higher yield to compensate for this “tail risk”.

More importantly, the underlying collateral is a hyper-specialized AI data center. If Meta leaves, it’s likely that the facility cannot be easily repurposed. While the RVG mitigates the financial loss, the specialized nature of the underlying asset still influences the perceived risk and pushes the yield higher.

My guess is Meta (and other big tech) will do more of these deals going forward. In fact, just yesterday, Oracle appears to be raising debt even larger than Hyperion deal: $38 Billion for building data centers in Texas and Wisconsin. If the deal goes through, it would be the largest debt deal so far in AI infrastructure.

5. Thoughts on the AI buildout – Dwarkesh Patel and Romeo Dean

With a single year of earnings in 2025, Nvidia could cover the last 3 years of TSMC’s ENTIRE CapEx.

TSMC has done a total of $150B of CapEx over the last 5 years. This has gone towards many things, including building the entire 5nm and 3nm nodes (launched in 2020 and 2022 respectively) and the advanced packaging that Nvidia now uses to make datacenter chips. With only 20% of TSMC capacity1, Nvidia has generated $100B in earnings…

…Further up the supply chain, a single year of NVIDIA’s revenue almost matched the past 25 years of total R&D and capex from the five largest semiconductor equipment companies combined, including ASML, Applied Materials, Tokyo Electron…

…For the last two decades, datacenter construction basically co-opted the power infrastructure left over from US deindustrialization. One person we talked to in the industry said that until recently, every single data center had a story. Google’s first operated data center was across a former aluminum plant. The hyperscalers are used to repurposing the power equipment from old steel mills and automotive factories.

This is honestly a compelling ode to capitalism. As soon as one sector became more relevant, America was quickly and efficiently able to co-opt the previous one’s carcass. But now we are in a different regime. Not only are hyperscalers building new data centers at a much bigger scale than before, they are building them from scratch, and competing for the same inputs with each other – not least of which is skilled labor…

…Labor might actually end up being the most acute shortage – we can’t simply stamp out more workers (at least, not yet).

The 1.2 GW Stargate facility in Abilene has a workforce of over 5,000 people. Of course, there will be greater efficiencies as we scale this up, but naively that looks like 417,000 people to build 100 GW. And that’s on the low end of 2030 AI power consumption estimates. We’re gonna need stadiums full of electricians, heavy equipment operators, ironworkers, HVAC technicians,… you name it.

For reference, there’s 800K electricians and 8 million construction workers in the US…

…Anthropic and OpenAI’s combined AI CapEx per year (being done indirectly, mostly by Amazon and Microsoft in 2025) seems to be around $100B.

Revenues for OpenAI and Anthropic have been 3xing a year for the past 2 years. Together, they are on track to earn $20B in 2025.

This means they’re spending 5 times as much on CapEx as they’re earning in revenue. This will probably change over time – more mature industries usually have CapEx less than sales. But AI is really fast growing, so it makes sense to keep investing more than you’re making right now.

Currently, America’s AI CapEx is $400B/year. For AI to not be a bubble in the short term, the datacenters currently being built right now need to generate $400B in revenue over their lifetime. Will they?…

…Do you think that AI models will be able to do much of what a software engineer does by the end of a decade? If the 27M Software engineers worldwide are all on super charged $1000/month AI agent plans that double their productivity (for 10-20% of their salary), that would be $324B revenue already…

…A key question is whether datacenters will go “off-grid”—generating power on-site rather than connecting to the utility grid. Some of the largest datacenters are already doing this, e.g., Meta’s Orion or XAI’s Colossus.

Why would datacenters want to make power themselves rather than relying on the grid? They’re trying to get around interconnection delays. Connecting large new electricity sources to the grid now takes over 5 years…

…What will the distribution of individual datacenter sizes be? Here’s the argument for why we might end up seeing what looks like a thick sprinkle of 100 MW datacenters everywhere:

  • If you can plop down a medium sized datacenter here and there, you can soak up any excess capacity in the grid. You can do this kind of arb with a 100 MW datacenter, but there’s no local excess capacity in the grid at the scale of 1 or 10 GW – that much power is on the scale of a whole grid itself.
  • For pretraining like learning, you want to have large contiguous blobs of compute. But already we’re moving to a regime of RL and midtraining, where learning involves a lot of inference. And the ultimate vision here is some kind of continual learning, where models are widely deployed through the economy and learning on the job/from experience. This seems compatible with medium sized datacenters housing 10s of thousands of instances of AIs working, generating revenue, and learning from deployment.

Here’s the other vision. 1-10 GW datacenters, and then inference on device. Basically nothing in between.

  • If we move to a world with vertically integrated industrial scale production of off-grid datacenters, maybe what you want to do is just buy a really big plot of land, build a big factory on site to stamp out as many individual compute halls and power/cooling/network blocks as possible. You can’t be bothered to build bespoke infrastructure for 100 MW here and there, when your company needs 50 GW total. A good analogy might be how a VC with billions to deploy won’t look at any deal smaller than deca millions…

…Why doesn’t China just win by default? For every component other than chips which is required for this industrial scale ramp up (solar panels, HV transformers, switchgear, new grid capacity), China is the dominant global manufacturer. China produces 1 TW of solar PV a year, whereas the US produces 20 GW (and even for those, the cells and wafers themselves are manufactured in China, and only the final module is assembled in the US).

Not only does China generate more than twice the electricity than the US, but that generation has been growing more than 10 times faster than in the US. The reason this is significant is that the power build out can be directed to new datacenter sites. China State Grid could collaborate with Alibaba, Tencent, and Baidu to build capacity where it is most helpful to the AI buildout, and avoid the zero-sum race in the US between different hyperscalers to take over capacity that already exists.


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Company Notes Series (#10): Ponce Financial Group

Editor’s note: This is the latest edition in the “Company Notes Series”, where we periodically share our notes on companies we’ve studied in the recent past but currently have no vested interest in (we may invest in or sell shares in the companies mentioned at any time). The notes are raw and not updated, and the “as of” date for the data is given at the start of the notes. The first eight editions in the series can be found hereherehereherehereherehere,  here, and here. Please share your thoughts on the series through the “Contact Us” page; your feedback will determine if we continue with it. Thanks in advance!

Start of notes for Ponce Financial Group

Data as of 2025-06-07

Background on Ponce Financial Group

  • Ticker: PDLB
  • Listed exchange: NASDAQ
  • HQ location: Bronx, New York
  • Ponce Financial Group is the holding company for Ponce Bank (from here on in this set of notes, Ponce Financial Group will be referred to as PDLB)
  • Ponce Bank was established in 1960 under the name Ponce De Leon Federal Savings and Loan Association. In 1985, the bank changed its name to Ponce De Leon Federal Savings Bank. In 1997, the bank changed its name again to Ponce De Leon Federal Bank. In 2017, the bank adopted its current name of Ponce Bank.
  • Ponce Bank conducted a second-step conversion that was completed on 27 January 2022. The first-step of the conversion was conducted in September 2017. When the second-step conversion was completed, PDLB had 24.712 million shares outstanding.
  • PDLB’s banking offices are all located in New York; at the end of 2024, PDLB had 13 full service banking and 5 mortgage loan offices.
  • PDLB engages primarily in making mortgage loans consisting of one-to-four family residential (both investor-owned and owner-occupied), multifamily residential, nonresidential properties and construction and land, and, to a lesser extent, in business and consumer loans – see Figure 1. As of 31 March 2025, PDLB’s weighted-average loan-to-value ratio for its loans portfolio is a healthy 56.4%. PDLB’s loans are granted to customers who are located primarily in the New York City metropolitan area.
Figure 1; Source: PDLB 2025 Q1 10-Q

Details of PDLB’s ECIP preferred stock

  • The acronym ECIP stands for Emergency Capital Investment Program. The ECIP was set up by the US Treasury to provide investment capital directly to CDFIs (Community Development Financial Institutions) or MDIs (Minority Depository Institutions) to provide loans, grants, and forbearance for small businesses, minority-owned businesses, and consumers, in low-income and underserved communities.
  • On 7 June 2022, PDLB issued 225,000 shares of preferred stock for US$225.000 million to the US Treasury, as part of the Treasury’s ECIP.
  • The ECIP preferred stock issued by PDLB has the following characteristics:
    • No dividends will accrue for the preferred stock in the first two years after issuance. For years three through 10, depending upon the level of Qualified and/or Deep Impact Lending made in targeted communities, as defined in the ECIP guidelines, dividends will be at an annual rate of 2.0%, 1.25%, or 0.5% and, thereafter, will be fixed at one of the foregoing rates. As of 2025 Q1, PDLB has reported 11 consecutive quarters for which it has met both the Deep Impact and Qualified Lending Conditions, and the ECIP preferred stock currently has a dividend rate of 0.5%. 
    • As a participant in the ECIP, PLDB must adopt the Treasury’s standards for executive compensation and luxury expenses for the period during which the Treasury holds the ECIP preferred stock. PDLB also cannot pay dividends or repurchase its common stock unless it meets certain income-based tests and has paid the required dividends on the ECIP preferred Stock; PDLB started paying the ECIP preferred stock’s dividend in 2024.
    • On 20 December 2024, PDLB entered into an option agreement with the US Treasury to repurchase the ECIP preferred stock. PDLB now has the option to purchase all of the ECIP preferred stock during the first 15 years from the date of issue of the preferred stock. The purchase price will be based on a seemingly publicly-undisclosed formula to calculate the present value of the preferred stock, but management expects the purchase price to be at a substantial discount to the face value of the preferred stock, potentially less than 7 cents on the dollar. This is in line with the US Treasury’s announcement on 13 August 2024 that as of March 2024, any repurchases of ECIP preferred stock by the issuer can be done at a price ranging from 7% to 28% of the principal amount. As another sense check, given the current dividend rate of 0.5% on PDLB’s ECIP preferred stock, the annual cash flow accruing to the US Treasury is US$1.125 million; the present value of a perpetual annual cash flow of US$1.125 million, at a discount rate of 5%, is US$22.5 million, which is just 10% of the face value of PDLB’s ECIP preferred stock.
    • PDLB cannot exercise the option to repurchase the ECIP preferred stock until at least one of the Threshold Conditions are met and the earliest possible date by which a Threshold Condition may be met is 30 June 2026. The Threshold conditions are, such that, in the first 10 years from the issue of the ECIP preferred stock, PDLB meets either of: (1) over any 16 consecutive quarters, an average of at least 60% of PDLB’s total loan originations qualifies as Deep Impact Lending, (2) over any 24 consecutive quarters, an average of at least 85% of PDLB’s total loan originations qualifies as Qualified Lending, and (3) the preferred stock has a dividend rate of no more than 0.5%. As mentioned earlier, as of 2025 Q1, PDLB has reported 11 consecutive quarters for which it has met both the Deep Impact and Qualified Lending Conditions, and the ECIP preferred stock currently has a dividend rate of 0.5%.
    • Qualified Lending and Deep Impact Lending are, broadly speaking, loans made to (1) low-to-moderate income individuals, (2) rural communities, low-income communities, underserved communities, minority communities, and counties in persistent poverty, (3) small businesses and farms, and (4) affordable housing projects, public welfare and community development investments, and community facilities.
  • If PDLB ends up meeting at least one of its Threshold Conditions by 30 June 2026, and its US$225 million in ECIP preferred stock can be repurchased for US$15.75 million (7%) or less, at least US$209.25 million can be added to PDLB’s common stockholder’s equity. In the meantime, the ECIP preferred stock serves as a very low-cost source of capital for PDLB, given the annual dividend rate of just 0.5%.

Investing information on PDLB

  • PDLB is a thrift conversion – see here for how to invest in thrifts
  • As of 31 March 2025, PDLB had total assets of US$3.090 billion and common stockholders’ equity of US$288.886 million, giving a common stockholders’ equity to assets ratio of a poor 9.3%. PDLB’s total assets include securities held-to-maturity at amortized cost of US$358.024 million as of 31 March 2025; these securities have a marked-to-market value of US$349.518 million, so the difference is not material and can be ignored in the calculation of PDLB’s common stockholders’ equity. But the true economic value of PDLB’s ECIP preferred stock (see the “Details of PDLB’s ECIP preferred stock” section) should be factored into the calculation of PDLB’s common stockholders’ equity. Assuming the ECIP preferred stock can be repurchased for US$15.75 million (7% of the face value), PDLB’s adjusted common stockholders’ equity becomes US$498.136 million, and the common stockholders’ equity to assets ratio becomes a good 16.1%. 
  • As of 07 June 2025, PDLB has a stock price of US$13.36. Its latest financials (for the 3 months ended 31 March 2025) has its share count as 23.9662 million and its reported tangible book value per share as US$12.05. This gives a high price-to-reported tangible book (PTRB) ratio of 1.11. But if PDLB’s adjusted common stockholders’ equity of US$498.136 million is used, its price-to-adjusted tangible book (PTAB) ratio becomes an attractive 0.64.
  • PDLB has not bought back shares since its second-step conversion, and that’s a bad sign on management’s understanding of capital allocation, especially since PDLB is now trading at a deep discount to its adjusted tangible book value.
  • Non-performing loans were 0.88% of total assets in 2025 Q1, while non-performing assets as a percentage of total assets were 0.91% in 2024, 0.65% in 2023, 0.78% in 2022, 1.07% in 2021, and 1.35% in 2020. These are not exceptional nor bad.
  • PDLB’s annualised return on reported common stockholders’ equity in 2025 Q1 was a strong (relative for a thrift!) 7.97%. Using the adjusted common stockholders’ equity, the annualised ROE is still decent (again, relative for a thrift!) at 4.6%. But PDLB’s net income has been volatile since its second-step conversion: It was US$10.334 million in 2024, US$3.352 million in 2023, and -US$30.0 million in 2022. 
  • PDLB’s three senior-most leaders are:
    • Steven Tsavaris, executive chairman of PDLB. Tsavaris has served as a director since 1990. He joined Ponce Bank in 1995 as an executive president and became CEO of Ponce Bank in 2011. He became chairman of the board and CEO of Ponce Bank in 2013. Tsavaris is already 75.
    • Carlos Naudon, president and CEO of PDLB. Naudon has served as a director since 2014. He became president and COO of Ponce Bank in 2015, and is currently the president and CEO of Ponce Bank. Naudon is already 74.
    • Sergio Vaccaro, executive vice president and CFO of PDLB. Vaccaro joined PDLB in June 2022 in his current role. Prior to PDLB, he was the CFO of Private Bank America at HSBC from 2015 to May 2022. Vaccaro is still young at 49.
  • The compensation of Tsavaris, Naudon, and Vaccaro in 2024 are high, as shown in Figure 2 below, when compared to PDLB’s net income; their compensation for 2023 are even higher, although the step-down in 2024 is welcome to see.
  •  As of 16 April 2025, Tsavaris, Naudon, and Vaccaro control 476,142 shares, 500,149 shares, and 22,660 shares respectively; based on PDLB’s share price of US$13.36 as of 07 June 2025, the value of their stakes are US$6.361 million, US$6.682 million, and US$0.303 million, respectively. For Tsavaris and Naudon, who are the two most important leaders in PDLB, their equity values significantly outstrips their annual compensation.
Figure 2; Source: PDLB 2024 Def 14-A
  • Tsavaris, Naudon, and Vaccaro have compensation plans that include attractive change in control provisions. In the event that PDLB or Ponce Bank is acquired and the employment of Tsavaris and Naudon ends, they are each entitled to a severance package that includes: (1) 3x the amount of their highest gross income in the three years before their termination, (2) an amount equal to the value of any restricted stock, stock options, or stock awards, whether vested or unvested, and (3) 2 years of health insurance. In the case of Vaccaro, he is entitled to a severance package that includes: (1) 1.5x the amount of his average annual compensation in the five years before his termination, or whatever number of years that applies if he has been employed for less than five years, and (2) continuation of life, medical and disability coverage that is substantially identical to the coverage maintained by PDLB.
  • Putting everything together, it appears that PDLB is a thrift with (1) a low valuation, (2) a management team that does not seem to appreciate capital allocation, (3) average lending operations, and (4) a management team at retirement age with high ownership in PDLB and attractive change in control provisions, giving them incentive to sell the bank. PDLB’s second-step conversion was completed in January 2022, so it can already sell itself if management wants to (January 2025 would have been the 3-year anniversary), but management may be waiting for 30 June 2026, because that is the earliest date on which PDLB can repurchase its ECIP preferred stock. Management commented in the 2024 Q4 earnings release that they intend to repurchase the ECIP preferred stock:

    We are working diligently to ensure that we will meet the conditions necessary to allow us to repurchase our ECIP preferred stock in the future. The agreement we executed with the U.S. Treasury in December 2024, allows for a repurchase of the ECIP preferred stock once we have achieved Deep Impact Lending, as defined under the ECIP program, that is at least 60% of our total originations on average over 16 consecutive quarters, provided that we also meet certain other conditions at the time we exercise the repurchase option. As of December 31, 2024, our Deep Impact Lending over the last 10 consecutive quarters stands at 79%, well above the threshold. Also, from second quarter of 2024 to fourth quarter of 2024, we have originated $514 million of Deep Impact Lending as well as $54 million of qualified lending which represents 383% of our base, which period, together with the first quarter of 2025, will determine the rate of dividends payable on the ECIP preferred stock from the third quarter of 2025 to the second quarter of 2026. With one quarter to go, we are confident that we will get to over 400% of our base and ensure another year of preferred dividends of 0.50%, which is the lowest dividend rate.”
  • Assuming that (1) PDLB has a return on common stockholders’ equity of 7% in 2025, (2) PDLB’s ECIP preferred stock can be repurchased for 7% of face value in June 2026, and thus US$209.25 million can be added to PDLB’s common stockholder’s equity, (3) PDLB has an annualised return on common stockholders’ equity of 4% in 2026 H1, and in subsequent years and (4) PDLB gets acquired at a P/TB ratio of 1.2 eventually. Under these assumptions, the theoretical returns are shown in Table 1.
Table 1
  • Assuming that (1) PDLB has a return on common stockholders’ equity of 7% in 2025, (2) PDLB’s ECIP preferred stock can be repurchased for 7% of face value in June 2026, and thus US$209.25 million can be added to PDLB’s common stockholder’s equity, (3) PDLB has an annualised return on common stockholders’ equity of 4% in 2026 H1, and in subsequent years and (4) PDLB gets acquired at a P/TB ratio of 1 eventually. Under these assumptions, the theoretical returns are shown in Table 2.
Table 2

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What We’re Reading (Week Ending 19 October 2025)

The best articles we’ve read in recent times on a wide range of topics, including investing, business, and the world in general.

We’ve constantly been sharing a list of our recent reads in our weekly emails for The Good Investors.

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Here are the articles for the week ending 19 October 2025:

1. Why AI Is Not a Bubble* – Derek Thompson

The dot-com bubble was genuinely insane. The internet companies didn’t have real revenue, and the telecom firms didn’t have real users. In its first fiscal year, Pets.com earned less than $700,000 in revenue and spent nearly $12 million on advertising. Telecom firms laid so much fiber-optic cable that as late as 2005, 85 percent of broadband capacity in the U.S. was going unused.

Today’s AI boom is nothing like that. The modern hyperscalers are among the most profitable enterprises ever. The eight biggest tech firms—the Magnificent Seven plus Broadcom—now account for 37 percent of the S&P 500 and are expected to grow profits by 21 percent this year. Return on equity for the S&P 500, around 18 percent, is the highest since at least 1991—and achieved with less leverage than the late 1990s. These are not fragile companies playing with borrowed money…

…So, you could boil down the whole “is AI a bubble?” thing to one simple question: Where’s the cash?

The answer is that three years ago, it was nowhere, and now it’s surging. According to Azhar, generative AI revenue has grown by ninefold in the last two years…

…What we’re really interested in is revenue that comes in from new businesses and customers. This comes from three sources.

  • The first source is internal: Hyperscalers using their own AI to make money from their existing businesses, such as Meta using its AI to sell $1 billion more in ads (or, just as good for cash flow, using AI to save $1 billion).
  • The second source is external: Companies like OpenAI and Microsoft getting money from companies that use their AI, such as a legal AI firm building a bespoke model off of GPT-5.
  • The third source is novel: Using AI to create a business that doesn’t yet exist, like Tesla is trying (and mostly failing) to do with its fleet of Optimus robots.

The first two revenue sources seem to be firing on all cylinders. Microsoft and Amazon’s cloud divisions are surging as enterprise customers integrate generative-AI tools. Meta is using AI to sell more ads and to cut costs. Internal AI use (Meta’s ad tools, Microsoft’s Copilot, Amazon’s logistics optimization) plus external adoption (customers building on GPT-5 or Claude) means two of Azhar’s three revenue streams are already working.

The most important test for whether AI is a bubble is what you could call the “Triple-Digit Test.” The TDT says: If AI revenue grows more than 100 percent annually (or, even better, 200 percent) for the next few years, there probably won’t be a huge bubble pop. So far, that’s happening—or, at least, the biggest AI investors claim that it is happening.

  • Microsoft says its AI business has surpassed a $13 billion annual run rate, up 175 percent year-over-year.
  • Amazon claims its AI revenue is growing at “triple-digit percentages” year over year.
  • The VC firm Menlo Ventures estimates OpenAI, Anthropic, Scale AI, and Perplexity are all doubling or tripling annual revenue, which means they’re growing at 100 percent or more…

…AI’s revenue problem is really a white-collar workforce creativity problem. It’s notable that AI’s profitability doesn’t just depend on how fast frontier labs innovate. It depends on how creatively their customers use the tools, as Smith points out. But most of the world’s companies are not prompt-engineering wizards. Researchers at Harvard and Stanford recently found that many firms are misusing AI so badly that workers spend more time fixing AI-generated “workslop” than doing their jobs. If that pattern persists, AI will increase frustration rather than productivity, and a slow adoption curve will blow up the Triple-Digit Test and make these companies vulnerable to a major correction in valuation or investment.

If everybody builds the same thing, where’s the moat? Something I still can’t figure out is how all of these companies are going to make money when they’re all building similar products. Anthropic’s Claude technology isn’t that different from OpenAI’s GPT technology, and when several companies build an interchangeable product, competition tends to drive down prices, which is great for consumers and bad for firms outlaying a trillion dollars to build that thing. Meanwhile, cheap Chinese or open-source models that are “99.8 percent as good for a tenth of the price,” as Smith writes, could commodify the industry overnight. In that world, the real winners wouldn’t be OpenAI or Anthropic but the downstream companies that use cheap AI to build their own moat to get rich.

2. Is AI eating Vertical Market Software? – Best Anchor Stocks

Much like some people already believed, AI has not “eaten” VMS software (at least not yet). Mark Leonard started the call with a powerful story that demonstrate his integrity and also the fact that some people might be running ahead of themselves with their forecasts:

In 2016, Geoff Hinton made a long-term forecast. For those of you who don’t know him, Geoff is known as the godfather of AI and is a Nobel Prize winner for his work in the field. And long-term forecasting is very difficult. I talked about this before, and I’m happy to send you some sources/information if you’d like to delve into that further.

Geoffs’s forecast in 2016 was that radiologists were going to be rapidly replaced by AI, and specifically, he said people should stop training radiologists. In the intervening nine years since he made that forecast, the number of radiologists in the US has increased from 26,000 (these are US board-certified radiologists) to 30,500 or a 17% increase. Now that’s outpaced the population growth in that period. So the number of radiologists per capita is up from 7.9 to 8.5. Now, Geoff wasn’t wrong about the applicability of AI to radiology. Where he was wrong was that the technology would replace people. Instead, it has augmented people. The quality of care delivered by radiologists has improved. And the number of practicing radiologists has increased.

So I told you this story to make two points. Firstly, you and I will never know a tiny fraction as much about AI as Geoff did. And secondly, despite his deep knowledge of AI, he was unable to predict how it would change the structure of the radiology profession…

…Management also discussed how the company leverages LLMs and how their strategy protects them from worsening unit economics. Both things are related, so let’s start first with how Constellation has structured its access to LLMs to avoid being “price-gouged:”

So we’ve essentially created our own centralized sort of platform that essentially removes the various factions that are currently going on where to a certain extent, you have to largely be within this cloud provider to have access natively to this LLM and so on and so forth. So there’s these turf wars being kind of created across the various cloud providers and whatnot.

And so with our strategy has been to really play a very neutral sort of Switzerland type role, where by centralizing things through strategic relationships, either directly with the model providers or with the platform providers and so on and so forth. We’ve managed to negotiate, I think some, some, some really aggressive deals and remove the element of these sort of factions. They’re all willing to kind of play nice with us in the sandbox. So that puts us in a very unique position where sort of technically we have access to 15,000 sort of unique models. And that’s because we’re essentially sort of coalescing sort of anything that otherwise couldn’t be or reside within other platforms. The other piece that sort of I had touched on very briefly, and Paul sort of alluded to as well, is sort of using a on prem based assets where and when possible.

So to the extent that the LLM needs to be or the AI model needs to be hyper specific or, you know, a specific trained one that it resides with a pre-existing best of breed provider, then sure, that may make sense to kind of tap into that one, but for basic, let’s say sort of translation service, summarization, service, and a myriad of other hosts of functionality and whatnot, you know, the on prem one is plenty sufficient and capable of doing it’s, you know, its own sort of thing.

This flexibility basically means that CSU will benefit from price wars across the different LLMs (which they expect will happen) and will also be able to take advantage of their on-prem infrastructure to lower costs for consumers (when able to).

3. An Interview with Gracelin Baskaran About Rare Earths – Ben Thompson and Gracelin Baskaran

GB: We have so much supply on the market right now, and that’s really coming from China, they keep overproducing and it’s actually forcing western companies out of operation. So to put this into context for you, in the last three years, lithium prices have fallen by 85%, nickel prices by 80%, and cobalt by 60%. So companies are struggling to operate at a time when we know we need a lot of these materials because the economics of it aren’t checking out.

And is this overproduction on purpose? Is it to knock out all these western companies to result in China dependence?

GB: I can tell you one thing is Chinese companies aren’t operating profitably by-and-large either, but they are willing to absorb long-term losses in order to gain a strategic monopoly on a lot of these sectors.

I’ll give you an example: Chinese companies in Indonesia five years ago were producing about 500,000 tons of nickel a year, now they’re producing over 2.5 million tons a year, and what’s happened is nickel prices have fallen so much that BHP, an Australian company, has closed their operations in Australia and Glencore, a Swiss company, has closed theirs in New Caledonia.

So that dominance, that willingness to absorb loss, has given them a dominance and the ability to weaponize minerals and cut us off…

…But I want to go back to your question about rare earths, there’s two things that are important. First of all, rare earths are not actually rare, they’re everywhere, but finding them in these large scale quantities that are again economically viable is actually much harder, number one.

Number two is you can mine rare earths in a lot of places, but we don’t actually process rare earths or we historically have not, which it means that no matter where the rare earths are mined — I mean, even this year until February, the rare earths that we mined in California still went to China for that processing phase, so that allowed them to build that dominance. But it’s a very small market. I need a ton of lithium, I need a ton of cobalt, rare earths are actually a small market…

What is it about them that makes them so useful?

GB: They are the most powerful permanent magnet, which is actually really important. If you put a really good permanent magnet next to a fridge, you would basically pull the fridge off, so for defense technologies in particular, there’s nothing really that you can substitute at this point.

Got it. So is it just the magnetic properties or are there — for example, what’s their use in chips? I know particularly as chips have become more advanced, there’s questions about rare earths in there. Is that a magnetic thing or are there other properties as well?

GB: Rare earths are actually used in advanced semiconductors including memory chips and logic chips and actually when you look at the most recent export restrictions that China has applied, they’re actually reviewing the semiconductor end use on a case by case basis…

...Right. So what’s the trade-off there? Because you see numbers and you reference this before, I think China actually mines 60 to 70% of rare earths, but the actual processing is well over 90%. So what’s the bigger hole for us here? Is it the actual acquiring the rare earths or is it the processing/refining?

GB: Our big chokehold is processing because I can get rare earths from other places. So for example, now we are putting US government financial support, not just at mines, for example, Mountain Pass here in the United States, but we’re also providing financing to a project in Brazil that has rare earths. You can source feedstock from a variety of places, but it doesn’t actually matter when it goes back to China because then China can cut us off and we don’t have any of it. So we’ve got to build those processing capabilities here or else it’s like we never have access to them anyway.

So how does that happen? Is this an issue where basically there needs to be some combination of tariffs? Does China imports need to be blocked? There need to be a guaranteed price floor? How do you make the economics work? And you mentioned that these massive permitting issues when it comes to mines, is it better or worse when it comes to building these processing facilities?

GB: So really what we need is an all-of-the-above approach, and here’s what I mean by that. Again, it varies by commodity, the reason you need a price floor is this is when that US, the Department of Defense and MP Materials deal was signed earlier this year, which had a lot of support mechanisms. NdPr, neodymium-praseodymium oxide, which is one of our key rare earth compounds, was about $54 a kilogram. So at that price point, by 2030, there would only be eight projects outside of China that could even break even with their production costs because it was so commercially unviable. What you need in that case is you do need a price floor because what I don’t want is I don’t want my Western companies to go bankrupt or have to stop operating because prices are so low, and we’ve already seen it happen. In 2023, the United States opened its only cobalt mine and it closed it in the same year because prices had fallen so much. So we complained, we’re like, “Oh, I don’t want to lean into the Congo”, but we couldn’t keep our own mine open. We don’t want that to replicate for rare earths, so part of the story is a price floor story and the reality is you shouldn’t need a price floor forever.

What we saw after that deal, General Motors signed offtake, you saw Apple sign offtake, and already those prices have gone from $54 to about $84 or $85, the price floor is $110. So I’ve already closed what my fiscal responsibility by over 50%. As there’s more demand for a reliable supply chain and companies are now willing to pay that premium. I’m a Midwesterner, and what we saw after the rare earth export restrictions in April was that Ford actually had to stop manufacturing its Explorer model in Chicago because it couldn’t access these materials, so of course now we’re willing to pay a bit more to know that I won’t have to stop producing. Price floor is one part, but I need more than that.

So other mechanisms that become really important is I need concessional financing. Capital markets, because a lot of the risks that we’ve talked about, often tend to view this sector as too risky to lend to, but when the US government provides cheaper financing, we also see that banks are more willing to invest in that because they see it as a key de-risking mechanism.

The third thing I would add is government offtake helps because you’re not going to be able to sell everything to an American firm and so what we’ve seen this government do is say, “Okay, well we want a stockpile”. The recent budget in the US included $2 billion for a stockpile because if there is a supply chain disruption, I want to have enough to cover our national and economic security insurance, so they can backstop that by buying some of it…

Given the massive risk that is here, let’s sketch out that risk. What happens if China actually just cut off rare earths tomorrow? What happens?

GB: Our manufacturing stops. Even in April 4th when those restrictions hit, US government officials said, “Maybe we get to June before we run out”…

…GB: I can manufacture for days, but the US at the end of the day has less than 1% of the world’s nickel, cobalt, we have about 2% of the world’s rare earths, we have less than 1% of graphite, we are not going to win this race alone no matter how we cut the cake. The question is how do we form — I mean, think about it — we used to form strategic alliances over oil, our relationship with Saudi was the defense for oil agreement that kept our economy open for a long time. The question is, “How do we work with our partners in a way that our supply chains are as close to us as possible?”, but we can’t do it alone, God didn’t give us the rocks.

Which mineral is the hardest problem to solve of these?

GB: I would say that the most complicated mineral is probably actually rare earths, and there’s a few reasons for that.

Is there one specific rare earth in particular?

GB: The United States Geological Survey just undertook its review of what is a critical mineral, and of the 55 or so minerals, samarium is ranked number one. The reason samarium is number one is when I take out a ton of rock from the ground, there’s a different percentage of every mineral in that ton, and samarium is such a small percentage of that rock that and I need more of it than that percentage is in there. So samarium is our most critical, which means that it is a high likelihood that there’s a failure of that supply chain. Niobium is right up there and rhodium is up there, and rhodium is a platinum group metal. So you pull it out with platinum, tiny percentage. So that’s what I mean by geology, I can’t will myself to have more Samarium in a ton of rock.

4. My friend became a millionaire at 17, and I got two book recommendations – Thomas Chua

“Actually… something huge happened.”

He told me slowly, almost reluctantly. His dad’s boss had given his father a red packet for Lunar New Year—a pretty standard gesture in Singapore. Bosses give employees red packets during the festive season as a bonus, usually cash.

Sometimes, though, they don’t give cash.

Sometimes they give hope.

In his dad’s case, his boss had given him a lottery ticket—the Singapore Sweep, with a top prize of over $2 million.

His dad won.

My jaw dropped. My teenage brain couldn’t comprehend that level of luck.

Over $2 million. The boss had fought to get the ticket back—or at least demanded a portion of it. I never learned exactly how it ended, but his dad quit his job not long after, so I assumed he kept everything. The family became estranged from relatives who’d expected generosity with the windfall, who’d wanted their own slice.

My friend and his siblings each received a tidy six-figure sum from their dad.

His family became millionaires overnight.

Looking back now, I realize that the Chinese New Year was probably their last normal one as a family. The last time money was just money, not a test of relationships. The last time people showed up because they wanted to, not because they wanted something…

…At seventeen, that kind of windfall looks like freedom. Looks like every door opening at once. No more worrying about tuition, about scholarships, about starting life in debt. Just pure possibility.

But freedom from what, exactly?

My friend hadn’t built anything yet. Hadn’t struggled for anything. Hadn’t earned the quiet confidence that comes from overcoming something you weren’t sure you could overcome. He hadn’t had the chance to discover what he was capable of when things got hard.

And here’s the thing about struggles: they don’t just test you. They build you.

5. National Bank of Detroit – Joe Raymond

Long story short, Buffett, Munger, and Guerin acquired control of Blue Chip Stamps in the late ’60s. The main appeal of the stock was the cheap price in relation to the large amount of deferred revenue from stamp sales. By taking control of the company, Buffett & friends could invest this “float” in securities.

Blue Chip had $89 million of stamp-related float in March 1972, $134 million of securities, and $74 million of common equities…

…Buffett needed to keep Blue Chip’s balance sheet liquid enough to handle stamp redemptions, but he knew he could do better than short-term debt instruments. Instead, he bought a group of solid companies at reasonable valuations.

Nearly two-thirds of the stock portfolio was made up of 10 banks…

…Blue Chip got out of most of these stocks within a decade. Nevertheless, I thought it would be fun to go through each of these banks and see how things played out over the long run.

It turns out this is a great way to learn about bank investing…

…This post will be dedicated to Blue Chip’s biggest position in 1972 – National Bank of Detroit – which is an interesting (and moderately successful) story…

…In March 1972, Blue Chip owned 218,380 shares of NBD (3.64% of the total outstanding) worth nearly $11 million. This equated to about 8% of the securities portfolio, 15% of the stock portfolio, and 24% of Blue Chip’s common equity.

All of this is to say this was a sizable bet.

The average price in 1971 (when Buffett was buying) was $50 per share…

…So, NBD was a dominant regional bank with a 12%+ ROE trading at a discount to book value. Loans to deposits was less than 60%, with the rest invested in conservative securities.

The 10-year track record was satisfactory…

…By the mid-80s, many states had passed reciprocity laws allowing bank holding companies from approved neighboring states to buy or merge across state lines.

Merger mania ensued; NBD did its fair share, making dozens of acquisitions from the mid-70s to mid-90s.

Despite the feverish M&A activity, results weren’t bad.

Book value per share grew from $57.24 in 1972 to $237.66 by 1995 (6.4% CAGR). The company also paid substantial and growing dividends over this period.

Annual BVPS growth adjusting for dividends came in around 11-12%…

…In 1995, NBD completed an all-stock merger of equals with First Chicago Corporation. The two banks had complementary business lines in adjacent geographies. The surviving entity operated under the combined name First Chicago NBD.

Then in 1998 First Chicago NBD merged with Banc One – a Columbus, Ohio based bank. Every one share of FCNBD received 1.62 shares of Banc One and the combined company was renamed Bank One (with a “k” instead of a “c”)…

…But Bank One’s fortunes started to turn south in the late ’90s shortly after the merger.

Earnings fell sharply in 1999 as growth slowed and anticipated cost savings failed to materialize. The credit card division from Banc One imploded due to bad loans and regulatory scrutiny. The stock fell by 50%. Analysts described Bank One as “the sick man of big banking.”

In 2000, a young executive by the name of Jamie Dimon was brought in to right the ship.

And right the ship he did.

Dimon wrote off billions in bad loans and goodwill. He centralized operations and established new risk controls. Tech systems were updated and unified. The credit card business was rebuilt.

By 2003, Bank One stock had tripled from its 2000 low.

In 2004, JPMorgan Chase and Bank One decided to merge…

…Each share of Bank One received 1.32 shares of JPM. Dimon was made President and COO for a year before taking the CEO title in 2005 and Chairman in 2006…

…Every one share of National Bank of Detroit Buffett purchased in 1971, if he had held for the next 54 years, would have turned into 14.58 shares of JPMorgan Chase today (as a result of multiple stock splits and stock-for-stock mergers).

NBD traded for an average price of $50 per share in 1971 whereas JPM trades for $310 per share today. As such, every $1,000 invested in NBD 54 years ago would be worth a little over $100,000 today.

Buffett’s $11 million stake would have grown to more than $1.1 billion.

Astute readers will note that this “only” equates to a 9% annual return. The buy-and-hold investor would have also received growing dividends over the decades, pushing the total annual return into the low-teens.


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What The USA’s Largest Bank Thinks About The State Of The Country’s Economy In Q3 2025

Insights from JPMorgan Chase’s management on the health of American consumers and businesses in the third quarter of 2025.

JPMorgan Chase (NYSE: JPM) is currently the largest bank in the USA by total assets. Because of this status, JPMorgan is naturally able to feel the pulse of the country’s economy. The bank’s latest earnings conference call – for the third quarter of 2025 – was held earlier this week and contained useful insights on the state of American consumers and businesses. The bottom-line is this: the US economy remains resilient, but uncertainty has heightened.

What’s shown between the two horizontal lines below are quotes from JPMorgan’s management team that I picked up from the call.


1. The US economy remained generally resilient in 2025 Q3 but job growth softened and uncertainty heightened; consumers and small businesses remain resilient and credit delinquencies were stable and better than management expected; a deterioration in the labour market is a risk management is watching

While there have been some signs of a softening, particularly in job growth, the U.S. economy generally remained resilient. However, there continues to be a heightened degree of uncertainty stemming from complex geopolitical conditions, tariffs and trade uncertainty, elevated asset prices and the risk of sticky inflation…

…Consumers and small businesses remain resilient based on our data. While we are closely watching the potentially softening labor market, our credit metrics, including early-stage delinquencies remain stable and slightly better than expected…

…Now talking to our economists, I was struck by something that Mike Farley said about thinking about the current labor market in this moment of what people are describing as a low hiring, low firing moment. You can think of that as potentially explained by employers experiencing high uncertainty. and so if you believe that and you think about This moment as a moment of high uncertainty, I think tipping point is a little bit too strong a word. But certainly, as you look ahead, there are risks. We already have slowing growth. There are a variety of challenges and sources of volatility and uncertainty. And so it’s pretty easy to imagine a world where the labor market deteriorates from here.

2. Net charge-offs for the whole bank (effectively bad loans that JPMorgan can’t recover) rose from US$2.1 billion a year ago; the increase is partly related to the case of fraud involving Tricolor

Credit costs were $3.4 billion with net charge-offs of $2.6 billion and a net reserve build of $810 million. In Wholesale, charge-offs were slightly elevated as a result of a couple of instances of apparent fraud in certain secured lending facilities. Otherwise, in both Wholesale and Consumer, credit performance remains in line with our expectations…

…Given the amount of public attention the Tricolor thing has gotten in particular, I think it’s worth just saying that, that’s contributing $170 million of charge-offs in the quarter, which we call out on the wholesale side.

3. JPMorgan’s investment banking fees had good growth in 2025 Q3, with strength in equity underwriting; management sees a robust pipeline for capital markets activities among companies and the outlook continues to be upbeat; management is seeing revived animal spirits among companies for credit

IB fees were up 16% year-on-year, reflecting a pickup in activity across products with particular strength in equity underwriting as the IPO market was active. Our pipeline remains robust and the outlook, along with the market backdrop and client sentiment continues to be upbeat…

…[Question] My question is both of demand and credit fundamentals, what are you seeing in terms of drivers of client demand there on the lending side on the Wholesale front?

[Answer] From the perspective of our franchise, this kind of moment of revived animal spirits, let’s say, is driving demand. We’re seeing very healthy deal flow. We’re seeing acquisition finance come back.

4. Management now expects credit card net charge-offs for 2025 to be 3.3% (was previously expected to be 3.6%) 

On credit, we now expect the 2025 card net charge-off rate to be approximately 3.3% on favorable delinquency trends driven by the continued resilience of the consumer.

5. The savings rate of consumers is currently a little lower than what management expected back in May 2025 because the consumer’s spending is robust even though income is lower

[Question] I wanted to ask about the retail deposit assumptions that were embedded in that. At Investor Day, you discussed an expectation for deposits to grow 3% year-over-year by the fourth quarter and I think accelerating to 6% next year. It looks like they were flat this quarter. So I just wanted to see if you’re still expecting those kind of previously expected growth rates of 3% and 6%.

[Answer] You’re referring specifically to a page that was presented at Investor Day [in May 2025] by Marianne for the CCB with some illustrative scenarios for what we might expect CCB deposit growth to do as a function of some different potential macroeconomic scenarios… So as we sit here right now and we sort of update the macro environment, a few things are true. One is the personal savings rate is a little bit lower than expected. Consumer spending remained robust, while income was a bit lower. So that’s all else equal, decreasing balances per account in CCB.

6. Management thinks subprime auto loans have been very challenging lately for organisations that are lending there

Subprime auto has been a challenging space for people in that industry.

7. The AI theme is overwhelming the US’s financial markets; management thinks the return on investment from AI spending needs to show up in terms of slowing down growth in the bank’s expenses, but it’s hard to measure, and management is seeing some productivity tailwinds

I think the risk is because of how incredibly overwhelming the AI theme is for the whole marketplace right now and all the various effects that it’s having in terms of equity market performance, MAG 7, data center build-out, electricity costs, like it’s an overwhelming thing…

…We’re spending a lot of money on it. We have very deep experts. As Jamie always says, we’ve been doing it for a long time, well before the current generative AI boom. But in the end, the proof is going to be in the pudding in terms of actually slowing the growth of expenses. And so what we’re doing is kind of rather than saying you must prove that you’re generating this much savings from AI, which turns out to be a very hard thing to do, hard to prove and might, at the margin result in people scrambling around to use AI in ways that are actually not efficient and that distract you from doing underlying process reengineering that you need to do. What we’re saying instead is let’s just do old-fashioned expense discipline and constrain people’s growth, constrain people’s headcount growth…

…Even if we can’t always measure it that precisely, there are definitely productivity tailwinds from AI.

8. Management thinks nonbank financial institutions in the USA has higher credit risks than banks

I would just add that it’s a very large category of nonbank financial institutions and probably a number like half of it, we would consider very traditional, not like different. There is a component, which is different today than it was years ago, and there’s a component which isn’t that different. But if you look at like COs, CLOs and lending to leveraged entities that are underwritten with leveraged loans, so there’s kind of a little bit of double leverage in there.

I would say that, yes, there will be additional risk in that category that we will see when we have a downturn. I expect to be a little bit worse than other people expect it to be because we don’t know all the underwriting standards that all of these people did. Jeremy said these are very smart players. They know what they’re doing. They’ve been around a long time but they’re not all very smart. And we don’t even know the standards that other banks underwriting to some of these entities. And I would suspect that some of those standards may not be as good as you think. Hopefully, we are very good, though we make our mistakes, too, obviously.

So yes, I think you’d be a little bit worse. We’ve had a benign credit environment for so long that I think you may see credit in other places deteriorate a little bit more than people think when, in fact, there’s a downturn. And hopefully, it will be a fairly normal credit cycle. What always happens is something is worse than a normal credit cycle than a normal downturn. So we’ll see.


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What We’re Reading (Week Ending 12 October 2025)

The best articles we’ve read in recent times on a wide range of topics, including investing, business, and the world in general.

We’ve constantly been sharing a list of our recent reads in our weekly emails for The Good Investors.

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But since our readership-audience for The Good Investors is wider than our subscriber base, we think sharing the reading list regularly on the blog itself can benefit even more people. The articles we share touch on a wide range of topics, including investing, business, and the world in general. 

Here are the articles for the week ending 12 October 2025:

1. GDP’s absurdity – Abdullah Al-Rezwan

To understand the flimsy nature of such belief, we first need to understand the nuances around calculating GDP:

Discourse over GDP is frequently confused because there are actually three different calculation approaches: the income approach, the expenditures approach, and the value-added approach.

Each approach has its uses, but you have to be careful with which you use. What percent of GDP is healthcare? You get two different numbers depending on the approach. With the expenditures approach, healthcare is 17% of GDP, but for the value-added approach only 8%. Why? Because the value-added approach only counts expenditures on hospital and clinic workers toward the healthcare category. Money spent on manufacturing medical devices counts as manufacturing; money spent building hospitals counts as construction. For measuring healthcare’s share of the economy, it is probably better to use the expenditures approach because it is reasonable to include pharmaceutical production and hospital electricity bills as part of healthcare.

GDP is a very complicated statistical construct that is made by government bureaucrats behind closed doors without any ability of the public to replicate, audit, or verify assumptions. Sometimes, these kinds of constructs can be useful for accurately representing real-world phenomena, like manufacturing capacity. But a dive into how the sausage is made makes clear that GDP is not one of them.

So, how is the sausage made here? It is particularly striking to take a look at manufacturing:

If you want to see what percent of the economy is manufacturing, and how that has changed over time, you can only use the value-added approach. Only the value-added approach separates out each step in the economic chain: from mining the iron ore to transporting it to the factory to manufacturing the product to selling it at the store. The value-added approach categorizes each step, so you can sum together just the increase in price from the manufacturing step across all categories of spending.

2. This Is How the AI Bubble Will Pop – Derek Thompson and Paul Kedrosky

Thompson: How do you see AI spending already warping the 2025 economy?

Kedrosky: Looking back, the analogy I draw is this: massive capital spending in one narrow slice of the economy during the 1990s caused a diversion of capital away from manufacturing in the United States. This starved small manufacturers of capital and made it difficult for them to raise money cheaply. Their cost of capital increased, meaning their margins had to be higher. During that time, China had entered the World Trade Organization and tariffs were dropping. We’ve made it very difficult for domestic manufacturers to compete against China, in large part because of the rising cost of capital. It all got sucked into this “death star” of telecom.

So in a weird way, we can trace some of the loss of manufacturing jobs in the 1990s to what happened in telecom because it was the great sucking sound that sucked all the capital out of everywhere else in the economy.

The exact same thing is happening now. If I’m a large private equity firm, there is no reward for spending money anywhere else but in data centers. So it’s the same phenomenon. If I’m a small manufacturer and I’m hoping to benefit from the on-shoring of manufacturing as a result of tariffs, I go out trying to raise money with that as my thesis. The hurdle rate just got a lot higher, meaning that I have to generate much higher returns because they’re comparing me to this other part of the economy that will accept giant amounts of money. And it looks like the returns are going to be tremendous because look at what’s happening in AI and the massive uptake of OpenAI. So I end up inadvertently starving a huge slice of the economy yet again, much like what we did in the 1990s…

…Kedrosky: The market is rewarding [the big tech companies] for investing in AI even though it makes no economic sense to spend at this level because there’s no way they can recoup the value of the capital spending over the next three years. So they’ll be forced to do these kind of wacky shell games where they say, “Well, the building itself will actually be valuable in five years, because it’ll still have energy, it’ll still have water, it’ll still be able to cool things, the walls will still be standing, and I’ll just swap out the GPUs.” But the problem is the GPUs are the majority of the cost. The shell is the thing I’d like to write off, since I don’t want to have to write off GPUs every three years. But they’re the majority of the cost of what we call a data center.

Unlike telecom, unlike the fiber boom, unlike in railroads, there are actually two assets here. One that’s long-lived, a building, which is essentially a small fraction of the cost of the center; and one that’s very short-lived, which is the GPUs, which are the thing we’d like to have last and don’t, yet represent as much as 60 percent of the cost of the data center. So there’s the perversity.

Thompson: I want to talk about how some of this might go badly in the next few years, and I want to preface that discussion by saying that when I talk about AI as a bubble, I think some people see me as being pessimistic about the technology. The railroads were a bubble. There was a panic of 1857, of 1873, and of 1893. There were constant railroad depressions, and also the railroads changed the world. Broadband was a bubble, it also changed the world. Big infrastructure buildouts that changed the world often passed through a bubble phase. So it’s not pessimistic to say that AI is currently in a bubble. You could say it’s actually historically in tune to say that we are very likely in the middle of a bubble, because every industrial revolution passes through bubble phases.

Let’s start here. How close are the hyperscalers—Meta, Google, Microsoft, the big boys—to getting AI revenue to match AI spending?

Kedrosky: Nowhere near.

The hyperscalers are spending as much as 50 percent of income on capital expenditures, which is unprecedented. This doesn’t happen. Normally, if I did that as Microsoft or Amazon, I would be taken to the woodshed and beaten by investors because that’s such an incredible investment on one narrow slice of CapEx. They’re not being punished for that.

What I’m watching is how they’re moving the financing off their balance sheet. That for me is a reflection of not wanting the credit rating agencies to look at what they’re spending. What we’re seeing is these SPVs— special purpose vehicles—being created. Meta has a stake, some giant private debt provider has a stake, and the data center at the end is under Meta’s control, but they don’t “own” it. And so it doesn’t go on their balance sheet in terms of assessing creditworthiness. We’re seeing for the first time over the last six, seven months, the beginnings of a wave of these special purpose vehicles and other more exotic financing structures. We’re seeing the equivalence of some of the old collateralized debt obligations emerge. These are all, for me, the beginning of the sign that the bubble is becoming tired because the market is beginning to punish—at least there’s a perception that the market will punish—if I continue to keep this on my income statement. So I move it somewhere else. And that makes the entire process much more opaque. That’s the thing to watch. How hard are they trying to hide the expenditure?

3. Why Warm Countries Are Poorer – Tomas Pueyo

Societies that live closer to the equator are warmer. Why are they also poorer?…

…Here’s the kicker—I’m so excited about writing this, I have a huge grin on my face right now: We did not evolve in such warm places, and humans in warm countries don’t live where you think they live!…

…Lisbon, the capital of the first global empire of the West, actually gets warmer than Nairobi! Nairobi’s temperature is not that high, and is quite stable throughout the year…

…The answer is obvious when you think about it: The higher you are, the cooler the temperature. Normally, temperatures decrease by ~4–9ºC every 1000 meters higher (2 to 5 °F/1000 ft). Since Bogotá is at 2,600 m of altitude (8600 ft), its annual temperature is 14ºC (25ºF) cooler than Barranquilla, which is farther north from the equator but at sea level, on the coast.

Bogotá was created far inland in the mountains in 1538, only a few decades after the Spanish discovery of America. The colonizers had a much harder time with disease and conflict in coastal flatlands. It was worth traveling hundreds of miles inland and up thousands of meters to survive. That region is agriculturally much better than the sea-level flatlands too, because of the same lack of disease and the soil that doesn’t get leached as much. This logic is true of all three main Colombian cities: Bogotá (12.7M people), Medellín (4.4M) and Cali (4.2M) are all in the mountains…

…Arguably, civilization would have had a much harder time developing in the Americas if the land had been much flatter and low-lying. It’s not a coincidence that the Incan Empire was a mountain empire and was the only independent one in the world to form on the equator!

Even today, the Latin American population concentrates in the Andes!…

…So the trend is clear that, closer to the equator, people tend to live in higher altitudes. What are the consequences of that?…

…Mountains mean people need to travel up and down mountain passes and huge slopes to get anywhere. They mean no navigable rivers. They mean much higher costs of infrastructure, so there’s much less of it. This means transportation costs are much higher…

…This, in turn, means there’s dramatically less trade, and so less money is made, and less wealth accumulated. We’ve seen how these facts have dramatically impoverished countries like Mexico and Brazil, and the generic process in A Science of Cities…

…The other thing that happens with mountains is conflict. As transportation costs are so much higher, people don’t move as much from their valley. There’s substantially less regional integration, and people trust and like each other less. They develop their own independent customs and mistrust those of their neighbors. This leads to more conflict between valleys, regions, and countries.

This process is called Balkanization, for the mountainous Balkans in Europe. But we also see it in Mexico’s and Colombia’s cartels—in fact, nearly all cartels in Latin America are in the mountains. We saw it in Iran, a highly mountainous country that requires a very strong state suppressing dissent to keep the country together…

…The pattern, and its logic, is unmistakable:

  • Humans evolved in the African highlands, where temperatures are stable throughout the year, and close to that of spring & fall in temperate regions. This is why we feel most comfortable there.
  • Close to the equator, if we’re not in the mountains, the temperatures are too high for us. We can’t think or work properly because we overheat, and our sweat can’t cool us off because humidity is too high.
  • We also suffer from many more diseases, more common in hot moist climates, but also because we didn’t evolve there.
  • This also affects food, as agriculture is much harder in these hot moist climates, given the pests, the speed of rot, and the work required by crops.
  • This prevented maladapted Westerners from efficiently transferring culture and institutions to these hot, humid, low-lying areas, yet another way these regions suffered.
  • In order to avoid all that, people close to the equator tend to live higher up, in mountains, where temperatures are cooler and the dew point is lower, allowing people to cool down with sweat when necessary.
  • The big tradeoff for this comfort though has been much higher transportation costs, so less trade, so less wealth.
  • This also leads to much more ethnic diversity.
  • This diversity breeds conflict, which makes everybody poorer.
  • Ethnic diversity and conflict also mean institutions are much harder to make and keep.

This is how mountains are the most significant underdiscussed topic in economic development, and how they must be considered to better explain why warmer countries are poorer.

4. How Misleading Headlines Frame the Narrative – Michael Batnick

The Financial Times recently ran a story on pension funds and private credit with the headline, “US public pension funds pare allocations to private credit. Pullback highlights concerns about looser underwriting standards and rising credit risks.”

On the surface, it was about institutional investors growing cautious on the booming asset class. But look closer, and you’ll see something more telling about the way news gets written — and consumed.

The article opens with a small pension fund in Cincinnati that has tapped the brakes on private credit. The narrative builds around skepticism, risk, and pullback. Only at the very end do readers learn that the New York City pension fund — with over $300 billion under management — is fully committed to private credit. In other words, the story’s most significant character wasn’t just positive on the space, but “all in.”…

…For investors, policymakers, and the public, this matters. Media framing shapes how we understand markets, risk, and opportunity. When negativity consistently drowns out proportion, we risk making decisions based on skewed perceptions.

And for society at large, the same forces are at play. Politics, economics, health, culture — the most pessimistic interpretations tend to dominate. Not because they’re always right, but because they’re the most clickable.

5. A Sleepy 5x – Joe Raymond

In my experience, stocks with the following characteristics tend to do well on average over time:

  1. Boring businesses with long histories of profitability
  2. Clean balance sheets (more cash than debt)
  3. Honest insiders (even if they aren’t terribly talented)
  4. Trading cheaply (say, 5x EBIT or less)

Once in a while one of these sorts of stocks might do poorly. But in aggregate, this group does tremendously well – at least in my experience and based on conversations with many other investors…

…Bryan Steam Corporation (BSC) was founded in Peru, Indiana way back in 1916. The company started out making steam-powered cars and tractors…

…By the mid-1920s, it was clear that gasoline powered engines were winning out over steam in automobiles. BSC switched course and focused on boilers and related steam equipment, rather than vehicles.

And that’s basically what the company did for the next 80 years…

…1993 is the earliest year I have data, so that’s where we’ll start. This was around the time my friend was buying shares…

…Growth was modest and choppy, and the operating margin fluctuated between 5% and 10% depending on activity levels. ROE in most years came in somewhere between 7% and 12%.

These are extremely pedestrian numbers.

Most investors wouldn’t have been excited to sit on the bid and patiently build a stake in Bryan Steam. Sure, it was cheap, but it had single-digit margins and single-digit ROE most years. Growth was lackluster. The dividend yield was a mundane 3%…

…But, if you think about it, what was the risk buying BSC at $30 in 1993?

You were paying half of tangible book value. The balance sheet was net cash. The company had a multi-decade history of profitability. Earnings could be cut in half, and you’d still only be paying 10x profits…

…Bryan Steam grew revenue from $16.4 million in 1993 to $26.2 million in 1998 (9.8% CAGR). Cumulative earnings over the period were $6.5 million, which was more than the entire $5.7 million market cap in 1993.

Book value per share grew from $58.84 to $78.50 (5.9% CAGR). The company also paid $8.45 per share of total dividends over those five years.

These are “good, not great” numbers.

Yet the stock finished 1997 trading for $58.25 (18% CAGR before dividends from the 1993 price of $30). And it still traded for only 77% of TBV and less than 7x earnings…

…In September 1998, Bryan Steam entered into a merger agreement with Burnham Corporation (OTC: BURCA/B).

The price?

$152 per share…

…My friend who bought BSC in 1993 at $30 earned a 44% IRR, including dividends. More importantly, he did it without taking a whole lot of risk…

…What if Burnham hadn’t come in and offered $152 per share?

Remember, BSC had compounded at 18% over the prior four years before Burnham entered the picture. And the valuation was still sub-1x book value for a decent (7-12% ROE) business.

Let’s say there was no acquisition and Bryan Steam kept plugging along at its prevailing pace, compounding book value at 6% for the next 20 years.

By 2018, BVPS would have been north of $250 per share and annual earnings would have been around $25 per share. At 12x earnings, BSC would be worth $300 per share.

This results in a hypothetical 10% annualized return over the 25-year period from 1993 to 2018. Including dividends, the IRR would have been in the neighborhood of 12-13%.


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Peter Lynch’s Wisdom

A rare public appearance from an investing legend.

Earlier this month, Peter Lynch was interviewed by Josh Brown, CEO of the US-based Ritholtz Wealth Management. Lynch is one of the all-time greats in the investing world. During his tenure as portfolio manager of the Fidelity Magellan Fund from 1977 to 1990, he produced an annualised return of 29%, nearly double that of the S&P 500 over the same period.

Lynch had written a number of books in the late 1980s and early 1990s (see here and here) in which he generously shared his investing philosophy techniques. But as far as I know, he has rarely given interviews since he retired as the Magellan Fund’s portfolio manager in 1990. So, when Brown’s interview of Lynch popped up on my radar, I took notes that I want to share. What’s shown between the two horizontal lines below in italics are my favourite parts of their conversation.


1. The dotcom bubble in the late 1990s saw nonsensical companies come public

Brown: I wanted to ask you if there were ever moments where you looked at something that was happening in the market, whether it was a bull market or a bear market, and said to yourself, “If I were at Magellan, I know exactly what I would be doing right now with this opportunity.” Have you had those moments?

Lynch: Yeah, I did have that moment when Pets.com came public. I said, “What? This makes no sense at all.” And then went up. I can’t short. But there were so many companies of no value. Fortunately, Fidelity didn’t own those damn things. That was a period to say, “Wow, what’s wrong here?”

2. It’s really important for investors to know the businesses of the stock they own, because the average stock goes up-and-down by 100% a year and it would be easy to be scared out of them without knowing the business

Lynch: The average range for a stock on the New York Stock Exchange, the average high, average low, every year is 100%. The stock might start at $20, sell at $28, finish at $14, finish at $20. There’s a 100% move. 

Brown: It’s 50% up, 50% down-ish. And that’s a 100% swing in the price.

Lynch: That’s the average stock. Most stocks you’re going to buy, they’re probably going to go down. If the story is powerful, like Watsco or Chrysler, you might buy it up. If you don’t know what they do and it goes down… I’ve had people say, “This stock’s gone from $50 to $1. How much can I lose?” And I say, “Wait a second. If somebody put $10,000 in at $50 and you put $50,000 at $1, if it goes to $0, who loses the most? Stocks go to $0. I’ve had them. I wasn’t buying them on the way to $0, but stocks go down. If you don’t understand what they do, if you can’t explain to an 11-year-old in a minute or less why you own it – not this sucker is going up, I’ve heard that one before. What’s the story of this company? They have good business, good balance sheet, they’re fine. That’s why I own it. If you can’t do that, you should buy a fund. 

3. Investors should not put money in the stock market if they need the money in the next few years

Lynch: The point is, if somebody has three children about to start college in two years, they shouldn’t be in the stock market. They should be in the money market fund. But if you got your house, paid down your mortgage, then you can invest and it’s been a great place to be since 1900.

4. Economic forecasts are not useful – current economic facts are

Brown: One of the more timeless things that you’ve said, and it comes off as sarcastic, but I think the last 15 years have really proven the value of this idea. Coming out of the great financial crisis, the most in-vogue style of investing was macroeconomic hedge funds, because there were a small handful of people who determined that the housing crisis would ultimately bring about a recession, and those people were revered for a couple of years. You’ve never really been big on trying to outguess everyone else on the economy. You said, “If you spend more than 13 minutes analyzing economic and market forecasts, you’ve wasted 10 minutes.” I still quote you to this day when clients call up and they want to talk about the latest labor report or what the Fed’s going to do. Tell us how long did it take you to figure that out and how much push back did you get when you said it, from people that were economists or focused on the macro?

Lynch: I don’t remember if Fidelity ever had an economist. We just buy stocks…

Brown: She’s here tonight.

Lynch: Okay. So, I’d love to get next year’s Wall Street Journal. I’d pay at least $5 for next year’s Wall Street Journal. And hands off to the people who did The Big Short. I had no idea how bad the housing market was, how bad people had second mortgages, they had home improvement loans, they were underwater in their house. I had no idea. Hats off to them. But I look at facts, like what’s happened to debt, credit card debt, you can get that now. What’s happened to savings rate? What’s happened to employment? I’d love to know what’s happening in the future. I’ve been hoping I could get that in the last 81 years. It’s not available. So I just deal with what’s now. What’s happened to used car prices? What’s happened to the price of oil? And you look at industries that have gone from miserable to getting better, like Chrysler. I remember people saying, “You were really good on that show but how could you possibly recommend Chrysler? It’s going bankrupt.” They had $2 billion in cash and they had enough money for the next three years. They weren’t going bankrupt. I think the best stocks I had, I think if 100 people did work on it, 99 would say that’s better than I expected. I use this for one of our great fund managers, Joel Tillinghast. I wrote a foreword to his book and I always said, “The person that turns the most rocks wins the game.” I said, “Joel Tillinghast is a great geologist.” Because if you look at 10 stocks, you probably find one that’s mispriced. Look at 20, you’ll find two. Look at 40, you’ll find four. And that’s what we’ve been doing at Fidelity. We look at everything.

Brown: So, you’re not discounting the value of economic data. You’re saying if it’s not from the future, the market already understands this.

Lynch: I mean I just want to know facts right now.

5. The hallmark of a great investor is the ability to change one’s mind

Lynch: So I pick up the phone. “This is Warren Buffet from Omaha, Nebraska. My annual report’s due in two weeks. I love a quote. Can I use it?” This is all in about three seconds. “What’s the quote?” He says, “Getting rid of your winners and holding the losers is like watering the weeds and cutting the flowers.” I said, “It’s yours.” He said, “If you don’t come to Omaha and see me, your name will be mud in Nebraska.” 

Brown: Did you do it?

Lynch: Oh, yeah. Many times. He’s the best. 

Brown: You built a relationship with Warren.

Lynch: Played bridge together. He’s the best. Imagine, he bought Apple like eight years after that iPod story and made fivef-old. And he had a huge position in IBM, it was going down. He says “I love stocks going down. I think IBM’s great.” He totally reversed. He got the hell out of IBM. He’s the best.

6. Investors don’t need to be chasing the fad-of-the-moment

Brown: I wanted to ask you about the modern stock market, specifically the AI boom that’s been for the last 3 years arguably the biggest driving force behind earnings growth, behind revenue growth, excitement about stocks. What do you think about it when you watch it or how involved are you with AI stocks with your own money right now?

Lynch: I have zero AI stocks. I literally couldn’t pronounce NVIDIA until about eight months ago. But we have people that are very tech. I am the lowest tech guy ever. My wife is mechanical, my daughter’s a mechanical engineer, I can’t do anything with computers. I just have yellow pads and a phone.

Brown: From your position as a third party to this, do you think investors have chased these ideas too far? Are there echoes of the 1999, 2000 era to you when you look at it, or are you open-minded about it and you say “Maybe this is not going to end as badly as that instance did?”

Lynch: I have no idea. Don’t have any. I have a lot of stocks I like, but not in that category.

7. The US economy has learnt many lessons over the course of decades and have built multiple buffers against crises, so the probability of another massive economic crash in the future is lower today than it was decades ago

Lynch: Yeah. So, we’ve had an incredible bull market since ‘82. We’ve had 10 or 12 declines, maybe a few more. So, people today, they’re not used to… 

Everybody I knew grew up, they’re warned, the big one’s coming. We’ve had 11 recessions since World War II. We’ve never had a big one. Imagine in the Depression, we didn’t have social security. There wasn’t social security. What a criminal invention. People when they retire, they got older, they moved in with their family. The family had to cut back on their spending. We didn’t have unemployment conversation. We didn’t have the SEC. The SEC did not exist. There’s so many things that are better. And we had a Federal Reserve that was asleep, to Booth. This, 1929, no one jumped out of windows. 

Brown: That was fabricated, you said.

Lynch: 1% of Americans owned stocks in 1929.

Brown: I don’t think a lot of people understand that. The losses were very contained to a small group of people.

Lynch: But we had an incredible depression. 30% of people out of work, not enough food, terrible farming environment. It was awful and people went through that. I’ve read stories about it. It was grim.

Brown: You think we have evolved the economy and the markets to the point where it would be very difficult to repeat the “Big One”.

Lynch: We’ve had 11 tests, 11 recessions since, and no one’s ever got worse than, 5%, 6% decline in GDP. There’s a lot of cushions now. 63% of Americans own their house. That was not true in the 1920s. People have IRAs that if they’re Fidelity, they’re not going to panic. People are careful with their savings. The GI Bill allowed people to buy houses with 5% down and create a lot of people with wealth. Most wealth in America is in their house. That was not true in the 20s. People were renting, rent went up. There’s so many buffers now. It’s incredible how many positives there are. We had a lot of tests. We had many opportunities to have a big one. We’ve had some probably bad presidents, some bad congresses, we’ve had bad economists, and we’ve made it through. It’s a pretty good system.

Brown: I like that message for people who are overdosing on Great Depression content on their social media feeds and constantly being fed that as a realistic possibility.

8. AI may take away some jobs in the US economy, but it’s not taking away the ingenuity of the country’s entrepreneurs, and that has been, and will be, the key driver of the country’s growth

Brown: From your point of view, the people displaced by AI and other innovations to come in the future, they’ll be doing something else. It’s unlikely they’ll be sitting there saying, “I wish I still had my job that AI took away.”

Lynch: I think more importantly, one job is going to go away. These are good paying jobs. The people that drive a truck, a tractor trailer from a manufacturing firm to a distribution center on highways, not through Beacon Hill, they go back that night. That should be automated.

Brown: And likely will be, you would say?

Lynch: I would say in 20 years, we’ll lose 500,000 jobs. And safety will be better, costs go down. That’s more important to me than AI. Those are people, working hard. They don’t need a… 

Brown: Sorry, automation is going to have a bigger impact than AI, you’re saying?

Lynch: Automation has been incredible the last 50 years. We’ve gone from 100 million jobs to 153, and Eastman Kodak’s gone down, [indecipherable] gone down. Sears has gone away. All the growth is new companies and companies with 100 to 200 employees or less. The largest 500 companies have fewer employees than they did 50 years ago. The largest 500 companies have fewer employees than they did 50 years ago. All the growth in this country is entrepreneurs starting a little shop, starting something else. That makes our country great.


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What We’re Reading (Week Ending 05 October 2025)

The best articles we’ve read in recent times on a wide range of topics, including investing, business, and the world in general.

We’ve constantly been sharing a list of our recent reads in our weekly emails for The Good Investors.

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But since our readership-audience for The Good Investors is wider than our subscriber base, we think sharing the reading list regularly on the blog itself can benefit even more people. The articles we share touch on a wide range of topics, including investing, business, and the world in general. 

Here are the articles for the week ending 05 October 2025:

1. Nature’s cruel lesson for bag holders – Thomas Chua

On the screen, a cheetah was stalking a gazelle through tall grass, and I found myself holding the stretch longer, mesmerized. My body frozen in tension—part from the stretch, part from watching this life-or-death chess match.

Then the gazelle’s head shot up. The cheetah immediately stopped. No hesitation. Just turned and walked away.

As I eased out of the stretch and settled onto the mat, I realized something: successful investors act like that cheetah, but most people? They do the exact opposite.

Here’s what fascinates me about predators: they never chase a losing cause. The moment their cover is blown—the second the distance starts widening—they quit. No ego. No “sunk cost” thinking. No “but I’ve already come this far.”

They just walk away.

But when you look at the markets, you see the opposite everywhere…

…The thing about us humans is that our prefrontal cortex—the part that makes us “smarter” than animals—actually makes us worse at knowing when to quit. We tell ourselves stories. We rationalize. We create elaborate justifications for why this time is different.

But the cheetah? It just knows: energy spent on a failed hunt is energy that can’t be used on the next opportunity.

This isn’t about giving up easily. It’s about recognizing when persistence becomes stupidity. When determination becomes delusion.

The sunk cost fallacy tricks you into thinking backward—valuing what you’ve already invested over what you could gain elsewhere. But successful investors, like predators, always look forward.

They ask: “From this moment, right now, is this my best opportunity?”

If the answer is no, they walk away. No drama. No hesitation.

Like nature’s hunters, the smartest investors know exactly when to abandon the hunt. They don’t chase dead ends. They stalk fresh opportunities.

2. America’s top companies keep talking about AI – but can’t explain the upsides – Melissa Heikkilä, Chris Cook and Clara Murray

The FT has used AI tools to identify these mentions of the technology in US Securities and Exchange Commission 10-K filings and earnings transcripts, then to categorise each mention. The results were then checked and analysed to help draw a nuanced picture about what companies were saying to different audiences about the technology.

SEC filings require companies to disclose risks to the businesses, and are necessarily more cautious than the sales pitches made by executives on earnings calls. But the increasing array of risks described in filings appears not to be weighing on executives in the public pronouncements.

374 of the S&P 500 mentioned AI on earnings calls in the past 12 months — with 87 per cent of the calls logged as wholly positive about the technology with no concerns expressed…

…The FT sought to categorise the expected positive benefits of the technology. Most of the anticipated benefits, such as increased productivity, were vaguely stated and harder to categorise than the risks.Companies anticipated being able to optimise workflows through automation, and hope to achieve market differentiation through their use of AI. Some hoped to be able to use the technology to improve the personalisation of their products.

Filings do reveal that the companies able to give clear AI upsides include those that serve the rising AI-driven data centre boom. Energy companies First Solar and Entergy cited AI as a demand driver.

Freeport-McMoran, which has a stockpile of copper, stated that “data centres and artificial intelligence developments” would support the metal’s price. The company also said the technology can help with material characterisation and mineral extraction.

Equipment manufacturer Caterpillar reported that its energy business was benefiting from supporting “data centre growth related to cloud computing and generative artificial intelligence”…

…As the number of companies discussing AI has grown, fewer businesses are expressing positive views about the technology than they did in 2022.

The most commonly cited concern was cyber security, which was mentioned as a risk by more than half of the S&P 500 in 2024.

3. The 100 faces of China’s retiree wallet – Nina Chen

The heterogeneity within generations is not unique to China, nor is it exclusive to the elderly. But what sets China’s current seniors apart is the unprecedented structural complexity born of rapid social upheaval and institutional ruptures. This has made them the most heterogeneous and fragmented generation in the country’s modern history.

A closer look shows that different age cohorts in China were shaped by profoundly different circumstances. Take the post-1950s cohort: as children, they endured the Great Famine, carrying lasting memories of hunger through their formative years. In adolescence, their schooling was interrupted by the Cultural Revolution. At an age when they should have been applying their knowledge and skills, they were sent to the countryside for “re-education” through manual labor. Many missed out on the economic dividends of China’s later boom simply because they lacked access to formal education.By contrast, the post-1960s cohort came of age in a very different world. They benefited from the reinstatement of the college entrance exam and the rapid expansion of education. Their youth coincided with the early years of reform and opening, full of energy and opportunities. By middle age, they had experienced soaring property prices, volatile stock markets, the rise of the internet, and widening wealth gaps. The difference between these two generations is not one of degree, but of kind—a qualitative rupture rather than a quantitative stretch…

…In many reports and media narratives, seniors are depicted as embracing new trends and eager to spend: the spotlight often falls on smiling tourists, silver-haired influencers in stylish outfits, and the curated lifestyles of upscale retirement communities. Such portrayals carry strong visual appeal but obscure the underlying consumption attitudes of the majority.

For most seniors, the guiding principle is frugality: “money must be spent where it matters.” Family resources are first directed toward projects deemed vital and long-term—children’s housing, weddings, or cars—seen both as investments in future security and as obligations rooted in traditional family responsibility. Frugality is regarded as a virtue, so spending always requires a clear justification. Tangible goods with lasting value are far more acceptable than abstract or experiential services, with subscription models in particular often dismissed as “non-essential.” Seniors are highly price-sensitive, prioritizing cost-effectiveness over brands or aesthetics…

…This generation lived through China’s abrupt transition from a production-oriented society to a consumer-driven one. Having grown up under scarcity and a planned economy, they later faced a sudden explosion of marketization and commercialization in adulthood. Without systematic guidance—whether from family or school—on new retail channels, advertising formats, rules, and risk awareness, most lack strong consumer judgment. Social isolation and emotional vulnerability further make them particularly susceptible to highly personalized, “caring” marketing.

This dynamic often leaves them swallowing losses in contradictory ways. Some engage in compensatory spending when finances allow, yet remain drawn to bargain hunting. They might skip a RMB 79.9 buffet but stockpile dozens of RMB 9.9 trinkets online. When warned about scams, they retort, “You just don’t understand.” They defend dubious products with, “It has a factory address.” And to children who question their “adopted sons and daughters” from livestreams, they reply, “At least they call me more than you do.” The cautionary phrase they once told their children—“Everything online is a scam”—has boomeranged back to them.

Seniors thus represent both an underserved market and a lucrative yet highly fragmented, information-poor, and emotionally fragile consumer base. Until high-quality elder-focused supply matures, low-cost, easily replicated, high-margin “elder exploitation” businesses will fill the gap. Often, all it takes is a livestreamer repeatedly calling viewers “grandpa” or “grandma” to trigger enthusiastic purchases…

…Within the senior consumer base, those with limited resources and capabilities make up a large share. Behind the silver economy narrative lies a stark truth: the majority of seniors remain low spenders, with consumption disproportionately shaped by a small, visible minority…

…Supplements: Over 80% of seniors do not take them. Among those who do, more than 80% spend less than RMB 3,000 annually. Although supplements are often viewed as the quintessential product for older consumers, a survey on the Living Conditions of Urban and Rural Seniors data shows otherwise: only 16.6% of seniors report using supplements. Of these, 60.6% spend less than RMB 1,000 per year, 24.0% spend RMB 1,000–2,999, 6.5% spend RMB 3,000–4,999, and just 8.9% spend over RMB 5,000…

…Elder care: More than 80% of seniors cannot afford standard retirement home costs. According to CEIC data, in 36 major cities, the average monthly fee for self-sufficient seniors exceeds RMB 2,600—including accommodation, meals, and basic care—and is even higher for semi-dependent or disabled residents. Survey data show that only 15.8% of seniors can afford RMB 3,000 or more per month, meaning over 80% remain priced out of institutional elder care…

…Over 80% of seniors did not travel in the past year. Among those who did, more than 80% spent less than RMB 5,000 annually. According to the 2021 Survey on the Living Conditions of Urban and Rural Seniors, only 9.1% traveled in 2020, and even with some growth in recent years, the share is still estimated at under 20%. Among the small group who do travel, the majority spend under RMB 5,000 a year—pointing to a market still dominated by short, budget-friendly trips…

…First, draw the finest slice, not the biggest circle. Before a single yuan is spent, nail down exactly who you’re serving: how many grandmothers and grandfathers within a ten-year birth band, how much they can actually pay, and how often they’ll open their wallets. Over-count the grey tide and you’ll build a palace for a village—then watch inventory rot and margins drown.

Second, once you’re inside the right yard, seniors likely stay. Familiarity beats flashy ads; trust is a lifelong contract. Win them once and they’ll keep the same travel agency, the same pill brand, the same breakfast stall—year after year—turning your customer-acquisition cost into a one-time entry fee.

Third, profits may also come from the quietest voices—but only if you’re willing to do the hard, on-the-ground work. Village grandpas without apps and grandmas without data plans don’t appear on dashboards, but their needs are vast and competition is thin. Reaching them is hard: you must squat on the lane curb, piggy-back existing clinics, and price for a pocket that holds only folded bills. Yet thin-margin, high-frequency sales—subsidised just enough by local government—add up quickly when idle assets are put to work. I searched online and found some uplifting examples:

  • In Ningxia’s Tongyi village, a derelict fish pond and drying yard were simply re-leased; anglers’ tickets and night-market stall rents now fully finance an 18-bed nursing home that charges residents zero fees.
  • In Gutian, Fujian, a ¥3 lunch canteen covers its costs with a tiny on-site grocery counter plus monthly on-site pharmacy sales, and the same micro-format has already been copied in 48 neighbouring villages.
  • In Caoxian, Shandong, 200 shared e-tricycles (¥1 per 3 km) pay themselves off in 18 months through side ads and parcel deliveries, proving that even a village road can become a revenue-producing asset.

4. AI isn’t replacing radiologists – Works in Progress and Deena Mousa

Radiology is a field optimized for human replacement, where digital inputs, pattern recognition tasks, and clear benchmarks predominate. In 2016, Geoffrey Hinton – computer scientist and Turing Award winner – declared that ‘people should stop training radiologists now’. If the most extreme predictions about the effect of AI on employment and wages were true, then radiology should be the canary in the coal mine.

But demand for human labor is higher than ever. In 2025, American diagnostic radiology residency programs offered a record 1,208 positions across all radiology specialties, a four percent increase from 2024, and the field’s vacancy rates are at all-time highs. In 2025, radiology was the second-highest-paid medical specialty in the country, with an average income of $520,000, over 48 percent higher than the average salary in 2015.

Three things explain this. First, while models beat humans on benchmarks, the standardized tests designed to measure AI performance, they struggle to replicate this performance in hospital conditions. Most tools can only diagnose abnormalities that are common in training data, and models often don’t work as well outside of their test conditions. Second, attempts to give models more tasks have run into legal hurdles: regulators and medical insurers so far are reluctant to approve or cover fully autonomous radiology models. Third, even when they do diagnose accurately, models replace only a small share of a radiologist’s job. Human radiologists spend a minority of their time on diagnostics and the majority on other activities, like talking to patients and fellow clinicians…

…Over the past decade, improvements in image interpretation have run far ahead of their diffusion. Hundreds of models can spot bleeds, nodules, and clots, yet AI is often limited to assistive use on a small subset of scans in any given practice. And despite predictions to the contrary, head counts and salaries have continued to rise. The promise of AI in radiology is overstated by benchmarks alone.

Multi‑task foundation models may widen coverage, and different training sets could blunt data gaps. But many hurdles cannot be removed with better models alone: the need to counsel the patient, shoulder malpractice risk, and receive accreditation from regulators. Each hurdle makes full substitution the expensive, risky option and human plus machine the default. Sharp increases in AI capabilities could certainly alter this dynamic, but it is a useful model for the first years of AI models that benchmark well at tasks associated with a particular career.

There are industries where conditions are different. Large platforms rely heavily on AI systems to triage or remove harmful or policy-violating content. At Facebook and Instagram, 94 percent and 98 percent of moderation decisions respectively are made by machines. But many of the more sophisticated knowledge jobs look more like radiology.

In many jobs, tasks are diverse, stakes are high, and demand is elastic. When this is the case, we should expect software to initially lead to more human work, not less. The lesson from a decade of radiology models is neither optimism about increased output nor dread about replacement. Models can lift productivity, but their implementation depends on behavior, institutions and incentives. For now, the paradox has held: the better the machines, the busier radiologists have become.

5. China’s AWS of Manufacturing – Thomas Chua

Guangzhou and its neighbors—Shenzhen, Dongguan, Foshan—form the Pearl River Delta manufacturing cluster. Decades of development have created an ecosystem so dense that suppliers, manufacturers, and assemblers for almost any product sit within hours of each other.

I took this trip to visit some of these wholesalers and it’s amazing how much they can do.

Walking through the wholesale markets, I saw many products that retail in Singapore and on online platforms selling at a fraction of the price. Take compression boots, for example—under $200 here. A similar device with a different brand slapped on in a Singapore mall near my house? Around $1,000.

Five times the price. Similar product.

I’ve known friends who’ve come here with specifications for products, whether clothing retail or electronics, and they’re able to establish their products and start selling abroad very quickly. All without ever having to sink heavy investments into building a factory or dealing with hiring anyone to produce these items…

…The Laifen hair dryers in hotels across China cost around $50. Dyson? $600.

The performance difference? About as noticeable as the taste difference between Pepsi and Coke.

We’ve also seen DJI and Insta360 run laps around GoPro in their offerings. If businesses can’t innovate fast enough, they’re going to be left behind.

This changing landscape created lots of new value, with some accruing to these newer, more nimble businesses. Consumers capture a nice chunk of the value as competition intensifies…

…On the first day, I had to use DeepSeek for my daily tasks—research, responding to my tour guide in mandarin, planning.

I’d tested DeepSeek during its Sputnik moment in January 2025 and found it comparable to ChatGPT. But now, having to use it due to the firewall, I realized just how rapidly Claude and ChatGPT have advanced. These models improve incrementally day by day—you don’t notice until you’re forced to switch between them.

The pace of AI development is staggering.

I ended up getting LetsVPN to access Claude and ChatGPT again—reliable for short China trips if you need Western services…

…During my daily hour at cafes, coffee in hand, doing my reading, I noticed something.

Many people around me were perpetually on LLM tools. Not just occasionally checking—constantly working with them.

DeepSeek and ChatGPT being the two most common.


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A Framework For Investing In Oil & Gas Companies

There’s a way to invest in oil & gas companies without having to make guesses on oil prices.

I have avoided investing in oil and gas companies for years, knowing how closely their stock prices track oil prices, a variable I cannot predict. But I still have a framework for investing in these companies: Buy them really cheaply. This framework is inspired by the successes of investors Bill Browder and the late Charlie Munger.

In Browder’s excellent 2015 book Red Notice, which I had discussed previously in this blog, he shared his experiences investing in two Russian oil & gas companies, Sidanco and Gazprom. These are the instructive excerpts (emphases are mine):

“[On Sidanco] According to his data, Sidanco had six billion barrels of oil reserves. By multiplying the price of the 4 per cent block by twenty-five I got the price of the whole company: $915 million. I divided that by the number of barrels of oil in the ground, which told me that Sidanco was trading at $0.15 per barrel of oil reserves in the ground, which was crazy because at the time the market price for a barrel of oil was $20

I pulled out a piece of paper and drew two columns. I titled the first Sidanco and the second Lukoil, and wrote down every fact about each company that I could find in the magazine. When I was done, I looked over the accumulated information. There was practically no difference between the two companies. Little infrastructure had been developed since the fall of the Soviet Union, and they both had the same rusting oil derricks and used the same leaky pipelines, and they both had the same unproductive workers who were paid the same measly salaries. The only obvious difference between them was that Lukoil was well known and had lots of broker reports written about it, whereas Sidanco had none. When we compiled the information from these reports and compared them to the information on Lukoil from the magazine, they matched up perfectly. This led me to believe that the information on Sidanco was reliable too. 

This was a remarkable discovery. Everyone knew that Lukoil was a steal, since it controlled the same amount of oil and gas as British Petroleum but was ten times cheaper. Now here was Sidanco, sitting on a bit less oil than Lukoil, but not much, only it was six times cheaper than Lukoil. In other words, Sidanco was sixty times cheaper than BP! This was one of the most obvious investment ideas I had ever seen. My fund bought 1.2 per cent of the company starting at $4 per share, spending roughly $11 million. It was the largest single investment decision I had ever been involved with in my life…

Finally, a little more than a year later, something did. On 14 October 1997, BP announced they were buying 10 per cent out of Vladimir Potanin’s 96 per cent block of Sidanco for a 600 per cent premium to the price we had paid a year earlier. It was a home run…

[On Gazprom] In terms of output and strategic significance, Gazprom was one of the world’s most important companies. Yet the entire market value of the company – $12 billion – was smaller than your average mid-size US oil and gas firm. In terms of hydrocarbon reserves, Gazprom was eight times the size of ExxonMobil and twelve times bigger than BP, the largest oil companies in the world – yet it traded at a 99.7 per cent discount to those companies per barrel of reserves

In a world where people fight tooth and nail to make 20 per cent, we’d just found something that might generate 1,000 per cent, or even 5,000 per cent. It was so obvious that the fund increased its investment in Gazprom right up to the 20 per cent limit, the largest percentage for a single stock that the fund allowed…

By 2005, Gazprom was up a hundred times from the price at which the Hermitage Fund had purchased its first shares. Not 100 per cent – one hundred times.

Coming to Munger’s investment, it involved a company called Belridge Oil. In the late 1970s, Munger invested in Belridge Oil at US$115 per share when its market capitalisation was US$110 million. At the time, the land Belridge Oil owned was sitting on 380 million barrels of oil reserves. The company’s market capitalisation meant that its oil reserves were valued at less than US$0.30 per barrel at a time when oil prices were around US$5 to US$6 per barrel. Around two years after Munger invested in Belridge Oil, the company was acquired by Shell for around US$3,700 per share, giving him a spectacular return of more than 3,000% in a short period of time.

To be clear, the Gazprom situation was hairy, and the successful outcome of Munger’s Belridge Oil investment came with a massive dollop of luck. Gazprom’s managers were stealing the company’s assets, and Browder had to rope in Russia’s government to intervene before the company’s stock price could surge. And after Munger invested in Belridge Oil, the price of oil increased to US$30 per barrel by 1980. But the core strategy in both cases was highly rational: Invest in oil & gas companies with oil reserves that are valued at massive discounts to prevailing oil prices.

I will continue to avoid investing in an oil & gas company if the investment thesis requires me to have a view on the future price of oil. But if I can find an oil & gas company with proven oil reserves that are valued at a tiny fraction of the prevailing price of oil, taking cues from Browder and Munger, I would be very interested as the huge discount removes the need for guesswork on oil prices.


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