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Here are the articles for the week ending 02 March 2025:

1. Satya Nadella – Microsoft’s AGI Plan & Quantum Breakthrough – Dwarkesh Patel and Satya Nadella

Dwarkesh Patel

Where is the value going to be created in AI?

Satya Nadella

That’s a great one. So I think there are two places where I can say with some confidence. One is the hyperscalers that do well, because the fundamental thing is if you sort of go back to even how Sam and others describe it, if intelligence is log of compute, whoever can do lots of compute is a big winner.

The other interesting thing is, if you look at underneath even any AI workload, like take ChatGPT, it’s not like everybody’s excited about what’s happening on the GPU side, it’s great. In fact, I think of my fleet even as a ratio of the AI accelerator to storage, to compute. And at scale, you’ve got to grow it…

…Satya Nadella

So in fact it’s manna from heaven to have these AI workloads because guess what? They’re more hungry for more compute, not just for training, but we now know, for test time. When you think of an AI agent, it turns out the AI agent is going to exponentially increase compute usage because you’re not even bound by just one human invoking a program. It’s one human invoking programs that invoke lots more programs. That’s going to create massive, massive demand and scale for compute infrastructure. So our hyperscale business, Azure business, and other hyperscalers, I think that’s a big thing.

Then after that, it becomes a little fuzzy. You could say, hey, there is a winner-take-all model- I just don’t see it. This, by the way, is the other thing I’ve learned: being very good at understanding what are winner-take-all markets and what are not winner-take-all markets is, in some sense, everything. I remember even in the early days when I was getting into Azure, Amazon had a very significant lead and people would come to me, and investors would come to me, and say, “Oh, it’s game over. You’ll never make it. Amazon, it’s winner-take-all.”

Having competed against Oracle and IBM in client-server, I knew that the buyers will not tolerate winner-take-all. Structurally, hyperscale will never be a winner-take-all because buyers are smart.

Consumer markets sometimes can be winner-take-all, but anything where the buyer is a corporation, an enterprise, an IT department, they will want multiple suppliers. And so you got to be one of the multiple suppliers.

That, I think, is what will happen even on the model side. There will be open-source. There will be a governor. Just like on Windows, one of the big lessons learned for me was, if you have a closed-source operating system, there will be a complement to it, which will be open source.

And so to some degree that’s a real check on what happens. I think in models there is one dimension of, maybe there will be a few closed source, but there will definitely be an open source alternative, and the open-source alternative will actually make sure that the closed-source, winner-take-all is mitigated.

That’s my feeling on the model side. And by the way, let’s not discount if this thing is really as powerful as people make it out to be, the state is not going to sit around and wait for private companies to go around and… all over the world. So, I don’t see it as a winner-take-all.

Then above that, I think it’s going to be the same old stuff, which is in consumer, in some categories, there may be some winner-take-all network effect. After all, ChatGPT is a great example.

It’s an at-scale consumer property that has already got real escape velocity. I go to the App Store, and I see it’s always there in the top five, and I say “wow, that’s pretty unbelievable”.

So they were able to use that early advantage and parlay that into an app advantage. In consumer, that could happen. In the enterprise again, I think there will be, by category, different winners. That’s sort of at least how I analyze it…

…Satya Nadella

The way I come at it, Dwarkesh, it’s a great question because at some level, if you’re going to have this explosion, abundance, whatever, commodity of intelligence available, the first thing we have to observe is GDP growth.

Before I get to what Microsoft’s revenue will look like, there’s only one governor in all of this. This is where we get a little bit ahead of ourselves with all this AGI hype. Remember the developed world, which is what? 2% growth and if you adjust for inflation it’s zero?

So in 2025, as we sit here, I’m not an economist, at least I look at it and say we have a real growth challenge. So, the first thing that we all have to do is, when we say this is like the Industrial Revolution, let’s have that Industrial Revolution type of growth.

That means to me, 10%, 7%, developed world, inflation-adjusted, growing at 5%. That’s the real marker. It can’t just be supply-side.

In fact that’s the thing, a lot of people are writing about it, and I’m glad they are, which is the big winners here are not going to be tech companies. The winners are going to be the broader industry that uses this commodity that, by the way, is abundant. Suddenly productivity goes up and the economy is growing at a faster rate. When that happens, we’ll be fine as an industry.

But that’s to me the moment. Us self-claiming some AGI milestone, that’s just nonsensical benchmark hacking to me. The real benchmark is: the world growing at 10%.

Dwarkesh Patel

Okay, so if the world grew at 10%, the world economy is $100 trillion or something, if the world grew at 10%, that’s like an extra $10 trillion in value produced every single year. If that is the case, you as a hyperscaler… It seems like $80 billion is a lot of money. Shouldn’t you be doing like $800 billion?

If you really think in a couple of years, we could be really growing the world economy at this rate, and the key bottleneck would be: do you have the compute necessary to deploy these AIs to do all this work?

Satya Nadella

That is correct. But by the way, the classic supply side is, “Hey, let me build it and they’ll come.” That’s an argument, and after all we’ve done that, we’ve taken enough risk to go do it.

But at some point, the supply and demand have to map. That’s why I’m tracking both sides of it. You can go off the rails completely when you are hyping yourself with the supply-side, versus really understanding how to translate that into real value to customers.

That’s why I look at my inference revenue. That’s one of the reasons why even the disclosure on the inference revenue… It’s interesting that not many people are talking about their real revenue, but to me, that is important as a governor for how you think about it.

You’re not going to say they have to symmetrically meet at any given point in time, but you need to have existence proof that you are able to parlay yesterday’s, let’s call it capital, into today’s demand, so that then you can again invest, maybe exponentially even, knowing that you’re not going to be completely rate mismatched.

Dwarkesh Patel

I wonder if there’s a contradiction in these two different viewpoints, because one of the things you’ve done wonderfully is make these early bets. You invested in OpenAI in 2019, even before there was Copilot and any applications.

If you look at the Industrial Revolution, these 6%, 10% build-outs of railways and whatever things, many of those were not like, “We’ve got revenue from the tickets, and now we’re going to…”

Satya Nadella

There was a lot of money lost.

Dwarkesh Patel

That’s true. So, if you really think there’s some potential here to 10x or 5x the growth rate of the world, and then you’re like, “Well, what is the revenue from GPT-4?”

If you really think that’s the possibility from the next level up, shouldn’t you just, “Let’s go crazy, let’s do the hundreds of billions of dollars of compute?” I mean, there’s some chance, right?

Satya Nadella

Here’s the interesting thing, right? That’s why even that balanced approach to the fleet, at least, is very important to me. It’s not about building compute. It’s about building compute that can actually help me not only train the next big model but also serve the next big model. Until you do those two things, you’re not going to be able to really be in a position to take advantage of even your investment.

So, that’s kind of where it’s not a race to just building a model, it’s a race to creating a commodity that is getting used in the world to drive… You have to have a complete thought, not just one thing that you’re thinking about.

And by the way, one of the things is that there will be overbuild. To your point about what happened in the dotcom era, the memo has gone out that, hey, you know, you need more energy, and you need more compute. Thank God for it. So, everybody’s going to race.

In fact, it’s not just companies deploying, countries are going to deploy capital, and there will be clearly… I’m so excited to be a leaser, because, by the way; I build a lot, I lease a lot. I am thrilled that I’m going to be leasing a lot of capacity in ’27, ’28 because I look at the builds, and I’m saying, “This is fantastic.” The only thing that’s going to happen with all the compute builds is the prices are going to come down…

…Satya Nadella

This has been another 30-year journey for us. It’s unbelievable. I’m the third CEO of Microsoft who’s been excited about quantum.

The fundamental breakthrough here, or the vision that we’ve always had is, you need a physics breakthrough in order to build a utility-scale quantum computer that works. We took the path of saying, the one way for having a less noisy or more reliable qubit is to bet on a physical property that by definition is more reliable and that’s what led us to the Majorana zero modes, which was theorized in the 1930s. The question was, can we actually physically fabricate these things? Can we actually build them?

So the big breakthrough effectively, and I know you talked to Chetan, was that we now finally have existence proof and a physics breakthrough of Majorana zero modes in a new phase of matter effectively. This is why we like the analogy of thinking of this as the transistor moment of quantum computing, where we effectively have a new phase, which is the topological phase, which means we can even now reliably hide the quantum information, measure it, and we can fabricate it. And so now that we have it, we feel like with that core foundational fabrication technique out of the way, we can start building a Majorana chip.

That Majorana One which I think is going to basically be the first chip that will be capable of a million qubits, physical. And then on that, thousands of logical qubits, error-corrected. And then it’s game on. You suddenly have the ability to build a real utility-scale quantum computer, and that to me is now so much more feasible. Without something like this, you will still be able to achieve milestones, but you’ll never be able to build a utility-scale computer. That’s why we’re excited about it…

…Satya Nadella

It’s a great question. One thing that I’ve been excited about is, even in today’s world… we had this quantum program, and we added some APIs to it. The breakthrough we had maybe two years ago was to think of this HPC stack, and AI stack, and quantum together.

In fact, if you think about it, AI is like an emulator of the simulator. Quantum is like a simulator of nature. What is quantum going to do? By the way, quantum is not going to replace classical. Quantum is great at what quantum can do, and classical will also…

Quantum is going to be fantastic for anything that is not data-heavy but is exploration-heavy in terms of the state space. It should be data-light but exponential states that you want to explore. Simulation is a great one: chemical physics, what have you, biology.

One of the things that we’ve started doing is really using AI as the emulation engine. But you can then train. So the way I think of it is, if you have AI plus quantum, maybe you’ll use quantum to generate synthetic data that then gets used by AI to train better models that know how to model something like chemistry or physics or what have you. These two things will get used together.

So even today, that’s effectively what we’re doing with the combination of HPC and AI. I hope to replace some of the HPC pieces with quantum computers.

2. Microsoft’s Majorana 1 chip carves new path for quantum computing – Catherine Bolgar

Microsoft today introduced Majorana 1, the world’s first quantum chip powered by a new Topological Core architecture that it expects will realize quantum computers capable of solving meaningful, industrial-scale problems in years, not decades.

It leverages the world’s first topoconductor, a breakthrough type of material which can observe and control Majorana particles to produce more reliable and scalable qubits, which are the building blocks for quantum computers.

In the same way that the invention of semiconductors made today’s smartphones, computers and electronics possible, topoconductors and the new type of chip they enable offer a path to developing quantum systems that can scale to a million qubits and are capable of tackling the most complex industrial and societal problems, Microsoft said…

…This new architecture used to develop the Majorana 1 processor offers a clear path to fit a million qubits on a single chip that can fit in the palm of one’s hand, Microsoft said. This is a needed threshold for quantum computers to deliver transformative, real-world solutions – such as breaking down microplastics into harmless byproducts or inventing self-healing materials for construction, manufacturing or healthcare. All the world’s current computers operating together can’t do what a one-million-qubit quantum computer will be able to do…

…The topoconductor, or topological superconductor, is a special category of material that can create an entirely new state of matter – not a solid, liquid or gas but a topological state. This is harnessed to produce a more stable qubit that is fast, small and can be digitally controlled, without the tradeoffs required by current alternatives…

…This breakthrough required developing an entirely new materials stack made of indium arsenide and aluminum, much of which Microsoft designed and fabricated atom by atom…

…Commercially important applications will also require trillions of operations on a million qubits, which would be prohibitive with current approaches that rely on fine-tuned analog control of each qubit. The Microsoft team’s new measurement approach enables qubits to be controlled digitally, redefining and vastly simplifying how quantum computing works.

This progress validates Microsoft’s choice years ago to pursue a topological qubit design – a high risk, high reward scientific and engineering challenge that is now paying off. Today, the company has placed eight topological qubits on a chip designed to scale to one million…

…But reaching the next horizon of quantum computing will require a quantum architecture that can provide a million qubits or more and reach trillions of fast and reliable operations. Today’s announcement puts that horizon within years, not decades, Microsoft said.

Because they can use quantum mechanics to mathematically map how nature behaves with incredible precision – from chemical reactions to molecular interactions and enzyme energies – million-qubit machines should be able to solve certain types of problems in chemistry, materials science and other industries that are impossible for today’s classical computers to accurately calculate…

…Most of all, quantum computing could allow engineers, scientists, companies and others to simply design things right the first time – which would be transformative for everything from healthcare to product development. The power of quantum computing, combined with AI tools, would allow someone to describe what kind of new material or molecule they want to create in plain language and get an answer that works straightaway – no guesswork or years of trial and error.

“Any company that makes anything could just design it perfectly the first time out. It would just give you the answer,” Troyer said. “The quantum computer teaches the AI the language of nature so the AI can just tell you the recipe for what you want to make.”…

…Qubits can be created in different ways, each with advantages and disadvantages. Nearly 20 years ago, Microsoft decided to pursue a unique approach: developing topological qubits, which it believed would offer more stable qubits requiring less error correction, thereby unlocking speed, size and controllability advantages. The approach posed a steep learning curve, requiring uncharted scientific and engineering breakthroughs, but also the most promising path to creating scalable and controllable qubits capable of doing commercially valuable work.

The disadvantage is – or was – that until recently the exotic particles Microsoft sought to use, called Majoranas, had never been seen or made. They don’t exist in nature and can only be coaxed into existence with magnetic fields and superconductors. The difficulty of developing the right materials to create the exotic particles and their associated topological state of matter is why most quantum efforts have focused on other kinds of qubits…

…Majoranas hide quantum information, making it more robust, but also harder to measure. The Microsoft team’s new measurement approach is so precise it can detect the difference between one billion and one billion and one electrons in a superconducting wire – which tells the computer what state the qubit is in and forms the basis for quantum computation.

The measurements can be turned on and off with voltage pulses, like flicking a light switch, rather than finetuning dials for each individual qubit. This simpler measurement approach that enables digital control simplifies the quantum computing process and the physical requirements to build a scalable machine…

…Majorana 1, Microsoft’s quantum chip that contains both qubits as well as surrounding control electronics, can be held in the palm of one’s hand and fits neatly into a quantum computer that can be easily deployed inside Azure datacenters.

3. The most underreported and important story in AI right now is that pure scaling has failed to produce AGI – Gary Marcus

On the order of half a trillion dollars has been invested on a premise that I have long argued was unlikely to succeed: the idea (sometimes informally referred to as the scaling hypothesis) that we could get to “artificial general intelligence” simply by adding more and more data and GPUs…

…Virtually all of the generative AI industry has been built on this presumption; projects like the OpenAI/Oracle/Softbank joint venture Stargate, allegedly another half trillion dollars, are also largely based on this premise…

…But I always knew it couldn’t last forever. When I said as much, the field was absolutely furious at me…

…The first signs that the pure scaling of data and compute might in fact be hitting a wall came from industry leaks from people like famed investor Marc Andreessen, who said in early November 2024 that current models are “sort of hitting the same ceiling on capabilities.” Then, in December, Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella echoed many of my 2022 themes, saying at a Microsoft Ignite event, “in the last multiple weeks there is a lot of debate on have we hit the wall with scaling laws. Is it gonna continue? Again, the thing to remember at the end of the day these are not physical laws. There are just empirical observations that hold true just like Moore’s Law did for a long period of time and so therefore it’s actually good to have some skepticism some debate.”…

…Finally, and perhaps most significantly: Elon Musk said over that weekend that Grok 3, with 15x the compute of Grok 2, and immense energy (and construction and chop) bills, would be “the smartest AI on the earth.” Yet the world quickly saw that Grok 3 is still afflicted by the kind of unreliability that has hobbled earlier models. The famous ML expert Andrej Karpathy reported that Grok 3 occasionally stumbles on basics like math and spelling. In my own experiments, I quickly found a wide array of errors, such as hallucinations (e.g, it told me with certainty that there was a significant 5.6-sized earthquake on Feb. 10 in Billings, Montana, when no such thing had happened) and extremely poor visual comprehension (e.g. it could not properly label the basic parts of a bicycle).

Nadella, in his December speech, pointed to test-time compute, in which systems are allowed extra time for “reasoning” as the next big thing, and to some degree he is right; it is the next big thing, a new thing to try to scale, since merely scaling compute and data is no longer bringing the massive returns it once did. At least for a while, adding more and more computing time will help, at least on some kinds of problems…

…although DeepSeek lowered the costs of training these new systems, they are still expensive to operate, which is why companies like OpenAI are limiting their usage. When customers begin to realize that even with the greater expenses, errors still seep in, they are likely to be disappointed. One irate customer cc:d me yesterday on a several page demand for a refund, writing in part that “GPT-4o Pro [which includes access to test time compute] has consistently underperformed,” and enumerated problems such as “Severely degraded memory” and “Hallucinations and Unreliable Answers.”…

…the illustrious Stanford Natural Language Processing group reached a similar conclusion, reading between the lines of OpenAI’s recent announcement in the same way I did. In their words, Altman’s recent OpenAI roadmap was “the final admission that the 2023 strategy of OpenAI, Anthropic, etc. ‘“simply scaling up model size, data, compute, and dollars spent will get us to AGI/ASI’) is no longer working!”

In short, half a trillion dollars have been invested in a misguided premise; a great deal more funding seems to be headed in the same direction for now.

4. Is Microsoft’s Copilot push the biggest bait-and-switch in AI – Tien Tzuo

Over a year ago, Microsoft launched Copilot Pro, an AI assistant embedded in its Office suite, with a $20/month price. The uptake apparently was abysmal. By October, they admitted that the way they were selling Copilot was not working out.

So what did they do? They forced it on Microsoft users by including Copilot in Office, and hiking up subscription fees. Microsoft first made this change in Asia, then fully pulled the plug across the globe last month, impacting 84 million subscribers. To add insult to injury, Microsoft renamed the product to Microsoft 365 Copilot. You didn’t want to pay for Copilot? Well, now you are…

…Not only is Microsoft’s Copilot rollout deceptive, it’s also embarrassingly disastrous.

This goes to show that even tech giants, including a major backer of AI pioneer OpenAI, can suffer the hype and competitive pressure surrounding AI. And it’s a stark reminder that what businesses should really be focused on instead is value — communicating it clearly and delivering it tangibly to customers…

…Well, there’s a good contrast to Microsoft’s approach — from Adobe.

Adobe took a different approach with its AI rollout last fall, resisting the temptation to immediately monetize its new video generator, instead using it to boost adoption and engagement. By positioning AI as a value-add rather than a paid extra, Adobe was playing the long game, building a loyal user base that would be ripe for future upselling once they experienced AI’s benefits for themselves.

5. Broken Markets!? – The Brooklyn Investor

So, I keep hearing that markets are broken, or that the market is as expensive as ever. I know I keep saying this and I am sounding like a broken record, but I am not so sure…

…But if you look at individual stocks, markets are clearly differentiating between individual stocks. Look at Nvidia vs. Intel. If nobody was really evaluating them and the market was ignoring fundamentals, you would think both stocks would be performing similarly. But they are clearly not. People are clearly differentiating between winners and losers. It’s a separate question whether they are over-discounting their views. That’s a different discussion, and contrary to the view that passive investing is killing fundamental analysis.

Another example: JPM, the better bank, is trading at 2.4x book, versus C, which is a crappier one, selling at 0.8x book. You can’t complain that the market is broken just because you don’t agree with it. On the other hand, Buffett in the 50s loved the fact that institutional investors of the time completely ignored company analysis / valuation…

…Look at all the rich folks at the Berkshire Hathaway annual meeting. Look at BRK stock since 1970. How often did it look ‘overpriced’? What about the market? What if people sold out when they thought BRK was overpriced? Or the market? Would they be as rich as they are now? Probably not. Maybe there are some smart folks that got in and out of BRK over the years, but I would bet that the richest of them are the ones that just held it and did nothing.

I keep telling people this, but if you look at all the richest people in the world, a lot of them are people who held a single asset, and held it for decades. Look at Bill Gates. What if he was hip to value investing and knew more about stocks and values. He may have sold out of MSFT when it looked really overvalued. What about Buffett? What about Bezos?

A lot of the rich used to be real estate moguls, and I thought a lot of them were wealthy because real estate was not very liquid, so they had no choice but to hold on even in bad times. Stocks have what you may call the “curse of liquidity”. It’s so easy to say, holy sh*t, something bad is going to happen, and *click*, you can get out of the market. Back in the 90s, we used to fear a 1-800 crash; people will call their brokers’ automated trade execution lines, 1-800-Sell-Everything, and go “Get me out of the market!!! See everything NOW!!!”, and the market would not be able to open the next morning. Some of us truly feared that, and hedge funds talked about that sort of thing all the time. But you can’t do that with your house.

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Here are the articles for the week ending 23 February 2025:

1. Weekend Thoughts: Demand Shocks and How Utilities Went From Sleepy to AI Darlings – Andrew Walker

That history has completely changed with AI over the past 18 months. Suddenly, the U.S. is experiencing real electricity demand growth for the first time in decades, and the rush for AI players to secure an enormous amount of electricity for their big AI datacenters has left the U.S. short electricity and scrambling to reopen old plants. The combination has created a bonanza for utilities; the whole sector screamed higher in 2024, and many of the utilities proved to be better AI plays than MSFT or even NVDA in 2024!…

…I mention it because I think that’s a really interesting set up to pattern to match / look for in the future. Find a staid, boring industry that most investors won’t look at that trades for a reasonable multiple (as utilities did pre-AI boom), and buy them just before a demand shock. You could argue if you do / time it right your downside is protected (it’s not like the stocks are going to go down when a demand shock doesn’t come; they’re not pricing one in!), and if you’re right you can make multiples of your money.

It worked for utilities in 2024, and it worked for all sorts of COVID beneficiaries in 2020/2021 (cleaning products, home gym equipment, etc.).

Now, there is one interesting wrinkle to this thesis: industries with long lead times benefit the most from a demand shock. Consider power: if you have a demand shock on the power side, then you eventually need to build more power plants to handle that shock. Building power plants takes a long time; I’d guess it takes 3-5 years from start to finish to build a baseload natural gas plant, and probably 20 years to build a nuke (if you can even get one built!). So a demand shock in power can create super normal pricing for a very long time. Most other demand shocks can be responded to much faster. A simple example: a demand shock in oil can be met relatively quickly; it only takes a few months to start spinning up new Permian wells!

2. How I avoided China’s biggest bond default – Willie Keng

In 2016, I told myself:

“Stay away from this Chinese company at ALL cost.”

It was a Thursday. I was in a room filled with high-level executives dressed in black suits – the company’s chief financial officer, finance managers, bankers, analysts and fund managers were there…

…Back then, even Chinese property developers from blue-chips to junk-rated companies all wanted to raise debt. China’s skyline was dominated by the grey, skeletal skyscrapers wrapped in scaffoldings. Tower cranes with long, mechanical arms swung on these buildings — there were noise of rapid urban growth.

And China’s property bond market was hot like an iron.

It was common to have 3-4 such company meetings in a single day. These were eye-opening — and very exciting times, as developers rushed to raise as much “cheap debt” as possible…

…In 2016, I saw the early warning signs of China’s bigger property developer, Evergrande…

…During that management [sic: meeting] held on Thursday, I concluded its leverage was too high…

…In 2021, Evergrande defaulted.

I’ve dug out some short-cut questions from my old notebooks:

1. How do you make money? (where are your sources of revenues from?)…
…11. How much debt are you refinancing over the next few years?
12. Who are your main bankers?
13. How do you hedge your interest rates? At what cost?
14. How much committed credit facilities you have with banks?
15. Why are you borrowing X debt, what are you using for?…
…23. How are you planning to refinance your short-term loans and who are the lenders? At what interest rate? Is it possible to get “secured” and “unsecured” funding?

3. The Magnificent Seven, MKL – The Brooklyn Investor

The question is, basically, what’s up with the Mag 7? How crazy is it? Is it Nifty-fifty all over again?…

…The Mag 7 is trading at 41x 2024 earnings, which is close to ttm earnings. and 33.5x 2025 expected earnings, and 28x 2026 expected earnings. I know, expected earnings is sort of rubbish. Nobody gets that right. But we gotta start somewhere, right?

By the way, if you exclude NVDA and TSLA, the above would be 32.6x, 29.6x and 25.8x P/Es, respectively. In this case, this is valid to do, because you can actually create a portfolio of high ROE, decent growth stocks at that valuation.

And then look at the ROE of each of these companies. And then look at the historic growth rates, 5 and 10 year of these companies…

… Let’s say the Mag 7 was a modern-day, techful version of a conglomerate like BRK. Its subsidiaries have grown tremendously in the past 5 and 10 years. Earnings will collectively grow 23% in 2025 and 19% in 2026 (willful suspension of disbelief may be key here), and look at the high ROE of each division (OK, I was too lazy to calculate a weighted average).

And this conglomerate is trading for 34x earnings! Or less than 30x if you don’t want NVDA and TSLA. Think about that for a second. How many ideas with those metrics can you find?…

… It’s easy to call AMZN a retailer, for example. YouTube is a big part of Google, and the rest of Google is advertising. So is Facebook. They compete with linear television, radio and other forms of entertainment in the past, and they make money from advertising, just like old media (including magazines too…). So we can call it media and advertising, not even “new” media. Just media. Tesla is an automaker. AAPL is more like the old Sony; consumer electronics. Basically every single consumer electronic product ever invented rolled into one product. They do media too; music, streaming etc. Gaming too. Only NVDA and MSFT sort of feel like the conventional ‘tech’.

My point was going to be, the Mag 7 domination may or may not be a problem, but it is quite diversified as a virtual conglomerate.

4. The Great EBITDA Illusion –  Stephen Clapham

KPMG examined 1800 transactions between 2013 and 2018 and found that both the number of adjustments to EBITDA increased, as did the value. The number increased from 5.8 to 7.9 per transaction and the value increased…

…Pro-forma adjustments have risen by 10% and were in over 60% of deals. These include cost-related adjustments, to reflect the future value of cost reductions, and revenue run-rate adjustments, including planned price increases, or the expected impact of a new product line. In my experience, cost savings tend to have a higher deliverability as they are more within management’s control; but it’s a rare business which can increase price without affecting volumes, while capacity increases are often tricky to model…

…S&P’s Leveraged Finance group have also looked at the topic of EBITDA adjustments, but through a different lens.

“Our six-year study on EBITDA addbacks appears to shows a positive correlation between the magnitude of addbacks at deal inception and the severity of management projection misses.”

They highlight that addbacks represent a median 30% of management adjusted EBITDA at deal inception. They consider management projections to be aggressive and U.S. speculative-grade corporate issuers generally “present earnings, debt, and leverage projections in their marketing materials at deal inception that they cannot realize”…

…This is of real significance, especially to lenders…

…Forecasts made in M&A deals turn out badly with leverage nearly twice the projection in year 1 and worse by end year 2. Most of the miss is down to over-estimating adjusted EBITDA. The median miss in year one was 34%, rising to 35% in year two…

…Leverage forecasts made in leveraged buyout transactions are much worse with actual leverage of 8.2x vs a 3.9x forecast…

…The S&P report concludes:

“Our six-year study continues to underscore that addbacks and company-adjusted EBITDA are a poor predictor of profitability. Our substantial dataset makes it clear that management teams and equity sponsors regularly miss their projections by a large margin, and that the magnitude of the misses is positively correlated with addbacks and firms that we rate lower. This suggests that inflated addbacks may help companies with higher financial risk get deals done.”

The data is clear and there is no reason to doubt it. What surprises me is that private equity and credit funds continue to engage in such practices and that allocators and credit investors appear relaxed. That may be justified given past performance, but as I have written here several times, I don’t believe that the historical record is anywhere near sustainable.

5. There Goes My Hero – Ben Carlson

My family took its first and only Disney trip in the summer of 1990.

We rode some rollercoasters. Went to one of the waterparks. Decently fun trip from what I can remember as a 4th grader.

The strange part was that my older brother Jon was lethargic the whole trip. I still remember a picture of him taking a nap on a bench in the middle of the day. Something was off.

I was nine, so I didn’t think anything of it. My mother, a registered nurse, knew something was wrong so when we got home, they took Jon to the doctor.

He was diagnosed with a rare form of leukemia just before heading into the 7th grade…

…Jon endured months of chemotherapy and radiation, after which the only solution was a bone marrow transplant. My parents weren’t a match. Luckily, my sister and I were both were.

I was the bone marrow donor. There was no guarantee it would work, but miraculously, it did. Jon’s cancer went into remission.

It was a terrible year for our family but Jon was a trooper. He never once complained. Even though he lived in the hospital on and off for months at a time and lost all of his hair he never felt sorry for himself…

…Last year, he was diagnosed with stage 4 pancreatic cancer. Last week he passed away just shy of his 46th birthday.

Jon was a tough son of a bitch and went out swinging.

The original plan was to manage the pancreatic cancer with chemo until Jon died but he didn’t want to just wither away. He called specialists all over the country, finally finding a doctor who would give him an experimental drug that allowed him to stop receiving chemo.

And it actually worked for a while. The cancer spread slowed. Eventually it would stop working but it gave us an extra six months or so…

…Grief is strange. Although you know millions and millions of other people have felt it, it still feels like the most personal of all emotions. I guess it is in some ways depending on the person and how they were lost.

At times, I’ve felt like there’s a black cloud hanging over my head. Other times, it’s as if there is a dull knife stuck in the back of my head. Sometimes it crashes into you all at once like a wave.

But it also forces you to reminisce about the good times. These past few months, it’s almost felt like my life has slowly flashed before my eyes through the lens of all the memories of my brother…

…After his bone marrow transplant, Jon was approached by the Make a Wish Foundation — anything he wanted, within reason.

He could have asked to meet his favorite celebrity or athlete. He could have asked for a room full of video games. He could have asked for a four-wheeler or a jetski or some other fun toy like that.

Instead, Jon requested a two-week all-expenses-paid vacation to Hawaii for our entire family. We got to swim with dolphins, fly in a helicopter, see some volcanoes, play on the beach, and more. They even sent a limo to our house to drive us to the airport.

I didn’t realize it at the time, but it was like Jon instinctively knew our family needed that after what we all went through. I still can’t believe a 12-year-old had the foresight to be so selfless, especially when no one would have blamed him for being as selfish as he wanted.

Jon was wise beyond his years and valued experiences with loved ones more than material possessions…

…As we worked through his financial situation it became abundantly clear he was more than prepared for something like this than I ever could have imagined. There was a large life insurance policy. He was holding far too much cash for a person his age.

Jon why do you have so much cash?

Ben, I knew something like this was going to happen. I’ve known it since I was 12 years old.

That bout with cancer changed his entire perception of risk. He’s been working and saving since age 19 because there was always a voice in the back of his head telling him something like this could happen again…

…He also left behind some life advice for his kids that helps explain the kind of guy he was:

Be happy with what you have, you don’t need as much as you think.

Never leave anyone behind.

Life is way better than a screen, go live it.

Our mantra is to go live like Jon. I’m so lucky to have him as part of my life while he was here.

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Here are the articles for the week ending 16 February 2025:

1. The real threat to American prosperity – Daron Acemoglu

American economic success in the era after the second world war depended on innovation, which in turn relied on strong institutions that encouraged people to invest in new technologies, trusting that their inventiveness would be rewarded. This meant a court system that functioned, so that the fruits of their investments could not be taken away from them by expropriation, corruption or chicanery; a financial system that would enable them to scale up their new technologies; and a competitive environment to ensure that incumbents or rivals couldn’t block their superior offerings. These kinds of institutions matter under all circumstances, but they are especially critical for economies that rely heavily on innovation.

Stability requires that people trust institutions, and institutions become more likely to fail when people think they are failing. This is what explained the sudden meltdown of US economic dynamism…

…Economic growth in the US was rapid for most of the post-1980 era, but about half of the country didn’t benefit much from this. In a pattern unparalleled in the industrialised world, Americans with less than a college degree experienced a real (inflation-adjusted) decline in their wages between 1980 and 2013, while those with postgraduate degrees experienced robust growth…

…Many Americans felt that they no longer had much of a political voice. In surveys, more than 80 per cent started saying that politicians did not care about what people like them thought…

…But perhaps the most important determinant of this dwindling trust in institutions was that the US had become much more polarised, making it increasingly difficult to satisfy the majority of the voters. The flames of grievance were powerfully fanned by social media, which deepened polarisation. This then further reduced trust in democracy and in public institutions. Worse, with intensifying distrust, something essential to democracy — compromise — became more and more challenging.

By the 2010s something unprecedented was happening. Ever since data on this had been collected, an overwhelming majority of Americans saw democracy as the “only game in town” and gave it strong support relative to alternatives such as monarchy, military dictatorship or rule by unelected experts. That began changing, especially among young people, who reported growing scepticism about democracy and much more lukewarm support for these institutions.

The cracks were visible long before Trump was first elected in November 2016. He was in many ways a symptom of those troubled times…

…Turning points are useful to locate because they are symbolic of deeper causes of social change. In hindsight, an obvious turning point came just before Trump’s second inauguration. Biden, who had four years ago made defence of democracy a main agenda item, pre-emptively pardoned his family and a number of politicians and public servants, including former Republican Congresswoman Liz Cheney and the former medical adviser to the president, Anthony Fauci. The optics were clear and ugly: Biden and his camp by this point had so little trust in US institutions that they thought only such pre-emptive pardons could stop Trump’s retribution (and making the reality worse than the optics, it was only the enemies of Trump who were close to Biden that counted)…

…While Trump’s domestic agenda intensified the loss of trust in US institutions and expertise in government, his relations with foreign allies did the same for the so-called rules-based order. Of course, there was some truth to critics’ contention that these rules were designed for America’s benefit and that when they didn’t serve it well, they were bent or broken by US politicians, diplomats and companies. But the world was not ready for Trump’s tariffs, threats and military expansionist rhetoric towards Panama, Greenland and even Canada.

This set the scene for a series of catastrophic governmental failures. With morale gone and key personnel fired, the US state was ill-equipped to deal with emergencies. When new pandemics arrived, the response was haphazard, and unpreparedness cost tens of thousands of lives. The few remaining independent media sources uncovered a glaring and dangerous lack of oversight of critical infrastructure, including nuclear reactors and cyber security.

But the real extent of the damage became clear only with the tech meltdown of 2030. Economists and historians have now shown that a lot of this was the outcome of institutional failures and growing concentration in the industry. After Trump lifted all roadblocks ahead of AI acceleration and cryptocurrency speculation, there was initially a boom in the tech sector. But within a few years the industry had become even more consolidated than before, and both insiders and outsiders came to realise that only companies favoured by the administration could survive…

…By late 2029, many commentators were questioning what was going on in the tech industry, which had invested heavily in AI but had little to show for this in terms of innovation or productivity growth. There was huge enthusiasm and investment in cryptoassets, which were one by one revealed to be scams costing regular Americans billions of dollars. The AI empire had no clothes by this point, because the competitive energy had been sucked out of it. It took a while longer for the market to realise that, but when it did, a massive stock market crash followed.

This is the kind of shock that a dynamic economy can recover from, with new innovators coming in, government experts using fiscal policy and other interventions to prevent the crash from translating into a deep recession, and all sorts of people still believing in their ability to make a difference. But once malaise about US institutions had sunk in and experts were no longer around in the government, the crash became a recession and then a depression.

The depression continued and intensified. Many now understood that institutions needed to be fixed, but after the damage that Biden and Trump had done and the polarisation that had reached even higher peaks, rebuilding them proved difficult. American innovators and scientists started emigrating to Canada and the European Union. Some even went to China.

America’s collapse thus followed Hemingway’s famous line on bankruptcy. It happened gradually, as shared prosperity, high-quality public services and the operation of democratic institutions weakened, and then suddenly, as Americans stopped believing in those institutions.

2. The Drug Industry Is Having Its Own DeepSeek Moment – David Wainer

In 2020, less than 5% of large pharmaceutical transactions worth $50 million or more upfront involved China. By 2024, that number had surged to nearly 30%, according to DealForma. A decade from now, many drugs hitting the U.S. market will have originated in Chinese labs…

…China’s biotech boom mirrors its rise in tech. In both cases, China has moved up the value chain, from manufacturing goods to becoming a more sophisticated hub for innovation, competing in industries once dominated by the U.S. There are several reasons for the industry’s growth. For one, many top scientists trained in the U.S. have returned to China over the past decade, fueling the emergence of biotech hubs around Shanghai. And just as DeepSeek built a formidable chatbot—allegedly on a lean budget with limited access to semiconductors—Chinese biotech companies are also scrappier, capitalizing on a highly skilled, lower-cost workforce that can move faster.

Additionally, companies can conduct clinical trials at a fraction of what they would cost in the U.S., while recent changes in the Chinese regulatory system have streamlined and accelerated the approval process to get a study started. 

For now, much of China’s biotech innovation is incremental rather than groundbreaking. Many companies focus on improving existing drugs—tweaking the chemistry, enhancing efficacy or differentiating them in key ways.

But Chinese innovation is steadily improving and is already starting to disrupt the U.S. drug-development ecosystem…

…Chief executives of large pharmaceutical companies are broadening their horizons. Why spend $10 billion acquiring a U.S. biotech with a mid-stage drug when a similar molecule can be licensed from China for a fraction of the price?…

…In late 2024, after scouring the market for obesity assets—presumably eyeing U.S. companies like Viking Therapeutics, which trades at a market value of around $3.7 billion—Merck chose to license an oral GLP-1 drug from China’s Hansoh Pharma. The deal: $112 million upfront, with potential milestone payments of up to $1.9 billion…

…These “bargain” deals are great for Big Pharma. But for U.S. biotech companies—and their venture-capital backers—they are creating real challenges. Investors increasingly struggle to value early-stage biotechs because it is difficult to predict what competition might emerge from China.

3. All of us could be wrong about DeepSeek and OpenAI – Chin Hui Leong

China’s DeepSeek has unleashed a new wave of AI hype.

But amid the noise, one thing is clear: everyone has an opinion, and no one has the answers….

…When Apple (NASDAQ: AAPL) unveiled its iPhone in 2007, many analysts dismissed its hardware-focused strategy.

Their argument hinged on a familiar pattern: over time, consumer hardware tends to become commoditised. If the iPhone becomes popular, they reasoned, its unique appeal would fade as competitors come in with cheaper imitations.

This wasn’t a baseless concern.

The personal computer (PC) era, the previous dominant computing platform, was marked by fierce price competition among hardware manufacturers. Even Apple’s Macintosh PC had fallen victim to the cutthroat competition in the 1980s and 1990s.

In short, the precedent was clear: hardware eventually becomes a commodity.

However, this time, things would be different.

Today, nearly 18 years later, Apple boasts over 2.35 billion devices in circulation, generating upwards of US$200 billion in annual iPhone revenue. Clearly, the popular smartphone has defied the conventional wisdom of hardware commoditisation.

Therein lies a lesson.

When considering the future of AI, the iPhone’s success serves as a crucial reminder: be wary of preconceived notions…

…Too often, we fall prey to the “Highlander” fallacy, assuming that one side can only win if the other loses.

This zero-sum mindset blinds us from a range of possible future scenarios.

Think about the mobile operating system (OS) market.

On one side, you’ve got Apple’s closed iOS, with 2.35 billion devices, and on the other, Google’s open-source Android, with a massive three billion devices.

Crucially, they’ve each found their own area to thrive in.

Apple continues to dominate in the premium smartphone market, while Android is all about getting Google services out there.

Going back to AI models: can OpenAI replicate this coexistence, thriving alongside open-source models?

Could we see large, proprietary models handling general use cases while smaller, specialised models address niche needs? Could there be a main AI model, featuring a supporting cast of smaller models?

Your guess is as good as mine…

…Do you know who were among the biggest “losers” in the shift from desktop to mobile?

In my book, it may be Microsoft and Nvidia.

Nvidia tried to break into the smartphone market but threw in the towel when it failed to get a foothold in the market. Microsoft, on the other hand, had long held a monopoly in the desktop OS market but failed to extend its dominance to mobile devices.

But are we really going to brand Microsoft and Nvidia as losers, even though they got the short end of the stick in the smartphone arena?

Today, both are at the forefront of the AI revolution, proving that setbacks don’t preclude future triumphs…

…Amid the noise, it’s important to remember that ChatGPT is barely two years old, a stark reminder of the industry’s infancy.

If history teaches us anything, we may want to put our egos aside and accept that there are developments that cannot be known ahead of time.

The AI landscape is still being written.

4. Deep Research and Knowledge Value – Ben Thompson

I found a much more beneficial use case the next day. Before I conduct a Stratechery Interview I do several hours of research on the person I am interviewing, their professional background, the company they work for, etc.; in this case I was talking to Bill McDermott, the Chairman and CEO of ServiceNow, a company I am somewhat familiar with but not intimately so. So, I asked Deep Research for help…

…I found the results eminently useful, although the questions were pretty mid; I did spend some time doing some additional reading of things like earnings reports before conducting the Interview with my own questions. In short, it saved me a fair bit of time and gave me a place to start from, and that alone more than paid for my monthly subscription.

Another compelling example came in researching a friend’s complicated medical issue; I’m not going to share my prompt and results for obvious reasons. What I will note is that this friend has been struggling with this issue for over a year, and has seen multiple doctors and tried several different remedies. Deep Research identified a possible issue in ten minutes that my friend has only just learned about from a specialist last week; while it is still to be determined if this is the answer he is looking for, it is notable that Deep Research may have accomplished in ten minutes what has taken my friend many hours over many months with many medical professionals.

It is the final example, however, that is the most interesting, precisely because it is the question on which Deep Research most egregiously failed. I generated a report about another friend’s industry, asking for the major players, supply chain analysis, customer segments, etc. It was by far my most comprehensive and detailed prompt. And, sure enough, Deep Research came back with a fully fleshed out report answering all of my questions.

It was also completely wrong, but in a really surprising way. The best way to characterize the issue is to go back to that famous Donald Rumsfeld quote:

There are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns — the ones we don’t know we don’t know.

The issue with the report I generated — and once again, I’m not going to share the results, but this time for reasons that are non-obvious — is that it completely missed a major entity in the industry in question. This particular entity is not a well-known brand, but is a major player in the supply chain. It is a significant enough entity that any report about the industry that did not include them is, if you want to be generous, incomplete.

It is, in fact, the fourth categorization that Rumsfeld didn’t mention: “the unknown known.” Anyone who read the report that Deep Research generated would be given the illusion of knowledge, but would not know what they think they know…

…What Deep Research reveals is how much more could be known. I read a lot of things on the Internet, but it’s not as if I will ever come close to reading everything. Moreover, as the amount of slop increases — whether human or AI generated — the difficulty in finding the right stuff to read is only increasing. This is also one problem with Deep Research that is worth pointing out: the worst results are often, paradoxically, for the most popular topics, precisely because those are the topics that are the most likely to be contaminated by slop. The more precise and obscure the topic, the more likely it is that Deep Research will have to find papers and articles that actually cover the topic well…

…There is a good chance that Deep Research, particularly as it evolves, will become the most effective search engine there has ever been; it will find whatever information there is to find about a particular topic and present it in a relevant way. It is the death, in other words, of security through obscurity. Previously we shifted from a world where you had to pay for the news to the news being fed to you; now we will shift from a world where you had to spend hours researching a topic to having a topic reported to you on command.

Unless, of course, the information that matters is not on the Internet. This is why I am not sharing the Deep Research report that provoked this insight: I happen to know some things about the industry in question — which is not related to tech, to be clear — because I have a friend who works in it, and it is suddenly clear to me how much future economic value is wrapped up in information not being public. In this case the entity in question is privately held, so there aren’t stock market filings, public reports, barely even a webpage! And so AI is blind…

…That, by extension, is why AI’s like Deep Research are one of the most powerful arguments yet for prediction markets. Prediction markets had their moment in the sun last fall during the U.S. presidential election, when they were far more optimistic about a Trump victory than polls. However, the potential — in fact, the necessity — of prediction markets is only going to increase with AI. AI’s capability of knowing everything that is public is going to increase the incentive to keep things secret; prediction markets in everything will provide a profit incentive for knowledge to be disseminated, by price if nothing else.

It is also interesting that prediction markets have become associated with crypto, another technology that is poised to come into its own in an AI-dominated world; infinite content generation increases the value of digital scarcity and verification, just as infinite transparency increases the value of secrecy. AI is likely to be the key to tying all of this together: a combination of verifiable information and understandable price movements may the only way to derive any meaning from the slop that is slowly drowning the Internet.

This is the other reality of AI, and why it is inescapable. Just as the Internet’s transparency and freedom to publish has devolved into torrents of information of questionable veracity, requiring ever more heroic efforts to parse, and undeniable opportunities to thrive by building independent brands — like this site — AI will both be the cause of further pollution of the information ecosystem and, simultaneously, the only way out…

…Secrecy is its own form of friction, the purposeful imposition of scarcity on valuable knowledge. It speaks to what will be valuable in an AI-denominated future: yes, the real world and human-denominated industries will rise in economic value, but so will the tools and infrastructure that both drive original research and discoveries, and the mechanisms to price it. The power of AI, at least on our current trajectory, comes from knowing everything; the (perhaps doomed) response of many will be to build walls, toll gates, and marketplaces to protect and harvest the fruits of their human expeditions.

5. AI and the Mag 7 – Daniel Rasmussen

Last summer, Goldman Sachs was estimating a $1T spend on AI capex in the coming years, and the numbers have only gone up since then, with most of it concentrated in the Mag 7 that dominate the public markets…

…It’s necessary as an investor to at least consider how these bets might go awry…

…The skeptic’s case starts with the possibility that the Mag 7 is suffering from a classic case of “competition neglect,” where “subjects in competitive settings overestimate their own skill and speed in responding to common observable shocks and underestimate the skill and responsiveness of their competitors,” as Robin Greenwood and Samuel Hanson put it in their paper, “Waves in Ship Prices and Investment.” When shipping prices increase, shipping companies all decide to invest in ships—after all, their models are all saying these investments will be profitable at current rates. That investment not only drives up the price of building new ships, it causes a glut of supply once they are built, resulting in poor returns on these pro-cyclical investments, as low as -36%, according to Greenwood and Hanson. Meanwhile, those who invest at the bottom of that cycle—when current shipping prices are low and there’s no one else building at the shipyards—earn returns as high as 24%.

Rather than ships, today’s AI capex “is a euphemism for building physical data centers with land, power, steel and industrial capacity,” as Sequoia Capital’s David Cahn puts it…

…OpenAI, SoftBank, and the federal government’s $500 billion Project Stargate is the culmination of this race to convert tech companies into industrial manufacturers. But even winning this race could be a Pyrrhic victory. Capex at these levels is an asset-heavy business model. Asset-heavy business models historically have lower returns on capital, especially when sunk costs meet increased competition.

In this scenario, perhaps Stargate is the AI equivalent of overinvesting in new ships at the same moment that everyone else is overinvesting in ships, leading to a supply glut, price drops, and poor investment returns…

…We still don’t have many economical use cases for AI. Even in low-compute mode, a single prompt on ChatGPT’s o3 model costs $20 to perform. High-compute mode can cost much more….

…While Anthropic CEO Dario Amodei is confident AI can beat humans at most things in 2-3 years, that doesn’t mean we will all be using AI that way. There’s a difference between what can be automated and what is cost-effective to automate. Daron Acemoglu, Institute Professor at MIT, estimates that only a quarter of AI-exposed tasks will be cost-effective to automate within the next 10 years. An MIT research paper looked at jobs in non-farm businesses and found 36% of tasks in jobs they studied could be automated by AI vision models, but only 8% were economically worth automating.

Scaling laws are an assumption that brute force will get us more and more powerful AI. For AI investors, it’s a playbook to outspend the competition, win the market, and trust that, eventually, more infrastructure and better chips will bring costs down and make more tasks economical to automate. But shooting for scale and achieving high ROI are not usually achieved at the same time.

Shortly after Stargate was announced, it was soon overshadowed by bigger news about China’s DeepSeek model. While the exact specs are a subject of debate, DeepSeek shattered the cost-to-performance expectations that investors and the Mag 7 have been working from…

…We’ve only just entered the true product-building era for AI. How many people today think of the internet as a product? The internet is not a single thing but a collection of services and products on common digital infrastructure (e.g., TCP/IP protocol, which was built by DARPA with US taxpayer money and isn’t a business anyone is making money on). Similarly, AI models could, like other commodities, utilities, and infrastructure projects, become a part of everything we use rather than a distinct product. Usage patterns are starting to reflect this: we are using these models less directly and more through other services built on top of them.

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Here are the articles for the week ending 09 February 2025:

1. Robert Litan: An Economist Walks Into a Bar at TEDxKC (Transcript) – Robert Litan

First guy, he approaches the first woman that he sees, offers her a drink. She turns him down. He, then, decides to walk his way down the bar. And, of course, all the women watching this, they see what he’s up to. And they all turn him down…

…He hasn’t learned from this experience, in the real world. So he decides to go to the virtual world. He goes to the Internet and joins Cupid.com and he tries the same technique, and sure enough, with the same result. They all turn him down…

…Cupid.com is in trouble too. And the reason they are, is that the women who have joined Cupid.com are being inundated with offers for men for dates. They get turned off, they quit. And if they quit, men quit. Cupid is in trouble. Who are you going call, to solve this problem. Know the answer is more obvious than ghost busters. You call an economist. Don’t laugh, you call economists. In fact, you call two of them.

This is Muriel Niederle of Stanford, and Dan Ariely of Duke. And they spend a lot of time, studying the problem of artificial scarcity and abundance, in the online dating context, which is a reason Cupid call them up. And they wanted to know how to fix their problem and the two economists said they had an idea, that was as simple as it was profound. Just put a sharp limit on the number of date offers that men could make to women each month. This is the notion of artificial scarcity. Taking what looks like an abundant resource, which is date offers, and artificially constraining them.

And the economists said to Cupid that if you do this, the men will take their offer seriously. They’ll look at more than just the women’s pictures and they’ll actually look at their profiles. And the women will know this, and they’ll be more likely to accept date-proposals. Artificial scarcity helped save Cupid.com, and other dating sites that copied the technique…

…Google collects about $50 billion a year, from advertisers, large and small, seeking placement on that right hand side. They auction off the site. But that’s not how the system started, because when Google was launched, online advertising was in its infancy, and Google, believe it or not, went door to door, advertiser to advertiser, trying to get them to place for an ad next to a search term. Highly laborious, you quickly can see that this is not going to scale, as the number of searches explodes on Google.

And so the founder of Google asked two young engineers, Eric Veach and Salar Kamangar, to come up with an automatic system, that would solve this problem. Well, they were instinctively attracted to auctions. But they were thinking about another problem. That is if they auction off the sites, they fear that the advertisers would bid a very low price, and then incrementally raise their prices just a little bit, and keep the auctions going on forever. And if this happened, and a lot of searches were also going on at the same time, the whole site would crash.

So, as an engineering solution, they came up with this idea. That the winning auction, or the winning placement will be the price, the second highest price that was bid plus one penny. This will cut off the auctions, greatly simplify the process, and in the process also solve another problem called “the winner’s curse“. I’m sure that many of you that have participated in auctions may have regretted winning because you felt like you’ve paid too much. Pretty obvious point…

…“You know, those two engineers, they have reinvented what this guy came up with.” This is William Vickrey, he was an economist at Colombia, who proved mathematically, that the second price auction was the ideal solution to the winner’s curse. And you know what, that won him the Nobel Prize in Economics in 1996.

2. Emergent Layers, Chapter 2: Overserved and Underserved Customers – Alex Danco

Returning to disruption theory, the critical element we’re going to use from that framework is the idea of the overserved customer: the customer who is being served too much by incumbents. In mature industries, where everybody agrees what the scarce resource is and the core constraints are well understood and organized around, we see this happen a lot. As incumbent companies compete with each other for business, and customers are all being served adequately (for the understood job at hand), competition becomes a feature race where products improve or expand at a greater rate than customers’ capacity to use them. There’s a misalignment between what the customer needs and is getting, with that misalignment falling onto the side of “I’m spending way too much of my money or time for this.” Crucially, when customers are overserved for a particular job, it introduces the critical space and oxygen required for a new competitor with some sort of scalable, technological advantage to enter the market at the low end. The nature of over-service creates powerful incentives for incumbents to not engage with disruptive entrants, but rather to retreat upmarket towards higher profit margins…

…For a more recent but still “classic” example, let’s look at Airbnb. Airbnb was able to get off the ground because there was a critical subset of customers in the hospitality industry — initially young people, although not exclusively so — who were overserved by many aspects of the hotel industry. Hotels were serving customers along many axes of performance — comfort, privacy, loyalty reward programs, and so forth — that just weren’t very important to a specific subset of customers who didn’t care too much about all that stuff; they just want a place to stay. This gave Airbnb the critical oxygen necessary to get a foot in the door, and then expand upwards from a dramatically cheaper cost structure than Marriott can possibly compete with. The overserved customer is a very potent and dangerous one: they know what they’re looking for, and they don’t need to be educated when a new entrant comes along with the right proposition. If that new entrant gets a few critical things right, they’re looking at a large group of early adopters that need little prodding, little education and little advance notice. That’s a great basis to start a company.

Let’s now consider another kind of pain: underserved customers. Their pain appears to be more straightforward: they have some fundamental need that isn’t being met. But this situation is trickier than it seems: if a group of customers have a genuine need, then why aren’t companies stepping in to offer solutions? What’s the catch? It could be because the solutions are genuinely too hard, or face technical or feasibility obstacles. It could also be that customers aren’t aware they have the problem. Either way, that’s tough…

…Now let’s put these two types of customer pain together. What would happen if a customer were both overserved and underserved at the same time? Is this possible?

As it turns out, this situation is not only possible, but occurs regularly. And it’s highly volatile. The trick to figuring out how this works requires venturing one step beyond disruption theory, and recasting the job-to-be-done as a stack itself with a hierarchy of low-level to high-level needs…

…We can characterize the initial job where customers are being served as being at level j, where incumbents vie for customer dollars and products will inevitably trend towards over-service. Meanwhile, we can characterize the higher-order job as being at level j+1, which encompass the customer’s higher level objectives, and where companies are not, for whatever reason, currently serving anyone…

…Consider Uber: you have a large group of customers (myself included) who are overserved by owning their own vehicle. If your car sits idle & parked more than 95% of the time (which is about average in North America), you are clearly overserved by owning this car! Yet at the same time, that same set of customers is underserved at level j+1, or the reason why they own a car in the first place — “I need to get to specific places at specific times”. You have a schedule to keep, and it’s hard.

Notice that both of these conditions must hold true in order for Uber to work. If customers were not overserved, it would be difficult for them to abandon their current solution. (Consider someone who drives their vehicle for a living, many hours per day. They are significantly less overserved by their vehicle, and quite unlikely to switch to using Uber for the equivalent job.) At the same time, if they weren’t underserved for a higher-level job (get me places at a certain time), then the only way for a new solution to be truly compelling would be dramatically lower price — which makes for a tough business model. This is another thing outside observers get wrong about Uber when they exclaim, “I don’t see how this is cheaper than owning a car!” Well, here’s the thing — Uber doesn’t have to be cheaper than driving, because it’s superior to driving your own vehicle in many ways! You don’t have to worry about parking, insurance, drinking, maintenance, gas, or anything else. The simultaneous condition of being overserved and underserved by existing solutions is what made Uber so compelling, in a way that other ride-sharing services or carpooling didn’t quite get right. Uber works because it’s cheap, but its appeal is because it’s better…

…If customers only check off the “underserved” box, then it seems likely you’re dealing with a problem that’s a. very hard, or b. the customer isn’t aware they have. This isn’t a great position to be in — it’ll be very hard to build an initial solution and attract early adopters.

If they only check off the “overserved” box, then customers know what they want — but it may be that they’re only motivated by price. And that’s also not a great position to be in: you may get lots of adopters really quickly, but find it very difficult to extract any profit from them…

…The particular combination of customers overserved at level j while being underserved at level j+1, when it happens, explains how from time to time we see markets where the demand is zero and then all of a sudden a vertical line straight up.

3. Why Housing May Be In for Another Cost Shock Next Year – Tracy Alloway, Joe Weisenthal, and Lee Everett

Lee (04:44):

It’s interesting. I think stress is hitting sort of all sides of the market. You have your bigger, more well established shops that have been managing through this, able to handle the higher rate environment, but have obviously taken a very real valuation hit on their existing portfolios. Like 20% to 30% depending upon the portfolio composition. At the same time you’ve had record demand hitting the sector because cost to buy housing is exceptionally unattainable today. And then on the other side you’re having a very material impact on the supply side and I think that’s what’s really unique. If you think back to September, the 10-year was around a 3.6%, I think, the day Chair Powell cut us by 50 basis points. Well, we’re at almost a 4.6% today and I remember that night you heard reports about developers out at local dinners and they were calling it Fed Day and getting ready to put shovels in the ground.

Joe (05:37):

Drinking champagne and stuff like that.

Lee (05:38):

Exactly. And what you’ve seen instead is increased stress on both the short end and the long end of the curve. That’s given you trouble on the short end, to start new housing, and trouble on the long end to afford longer term for ownership housing…

…Lee (11:29):

Yes, I think frankly we’re about to transition from what has been a very renter friendly market to again a landlord friendly market over the course of the next two to three years. And that’s going to be particularly driven by what we’re seeing on the supply side. We’re going to have over a million units come to market over a two-year period here in ’24 and ’25, but peak supply is hitting in the next six months and if you look at relative time from a) peak supply and then b) to getting to a level of lower supply than you saw last cycle, every major market in the country will be there by the end of 2026.

Joe (12:13):

Be where?

Lee (12:15):

Delivering less housing units than they did on average from ’17 to ’19 in apartment buildings. So you’re going to go below prior cycle supply very quickly. At the same time, we do have exceptionally strong labor markets here and the demand story has been outstanding. So 2024 is going to end the year, depending upon the data provider you use, as the first or third highest year for rental demand ever. 2021 was the prior record. So we’re seeing people form rental households at unprecedented rate in the US and as that supply comes down, you’re going to see that demand struggle to frankly find high quality, well-located assets to move in, and you’re likely to see that relationship flip at that point.

Tracy (13:08):

So the other thing that affects multifamily housing construction other than interest rates has to be just general confidence, I guess, in the direction of the economy, the direction of the world and certainly there’s a lot going on right now. We’re recording this on January 28th and there’s news that the Trump administration is freezing a whole bunch of federal spending. I think it’s something like 20% of federal spending. That includes presumably stuff like Section 8 and other affordable housing measures. Would that be expected to hit multifamily as well?

Lee (13:46):

Yeah, and I think it’s probably easiest to sort of start at the top, right? When you’re building multifamily, you’re generally trying to build to an acceptable return on cost, but frankly what we’re doing is putting an investor’s money together and generating returns for them. Multifamily isn’t built for free and it can’t be in this sort of economic world and a general rule of thumb is a 6+% return on cost. So cost to build, you want to yield over 6% of that to get a building to pencil. That tracks up closer to 7% depending upon the institution, because you need to build to that yield on cost, you have to have rents that are high enough to generate enough rental revenue to drive that return. So in order to build today, you have to build it exceptionally high rent levels, because of the cost to build, because of the cost of interest rates.

The only way to drop that is to drop the cost and that cost drop typically comes for affordable housing from the federal government, be it HUD grants that are then deployed through the local housing agency, be it LIHTC, be it any sort of an ensemble of ways to cut costs. That’s how you can get to affordable rents on the supply side. And then on the demand side, you can cut rents by literally giving people a rent check, which is what Section 8 is. And that again comes from the federal government via grants given to the local housing agencies to deploy. And if that money dries up, you have immense problems in terms of a) fueling the demand for these people, because you’re cutting rent on the Section 8 side and b) encouraging future construction of affordable apartment buildings…

…Joe (17:47):

Let’s talk about deportation impacts on labor. What are the estimates for what percentage of the multifamily workforce, whether it’s construction or maintenance, whatever else, is undocumented labor?

Lee (18:01):

It’s estimated 20% of construction workers in this country are undocumented labor. I’d venture to guess it’s similar for the whole multifamily industry when you look at staffing and things along those lines, and I think when you look at a combination of deportation of construction workers as well as the sheer amount of labor it’s going to require to rebuild huge swaths of California, I think you could be looking at a massive deficit in labor within the construction space. And when you think about that, that’s going to be your strongest lever that’s going to hit your cost to build and that’s what’s going to drive up those rents that are necessary. Is all of this immense pressure you’re going to see in the labor costs.

4. Test-Time Search: A Path To AGI – Akash Bajwa

The GPT family of models performed poorly relative to o3 on the ARC benchmark because large models memorise knowledge rather than reasoning processes…

…As an example, Meta intentionally overtrained Llama 3 on 15 trillion tokens to lower inference costs (as they served their billions of users). The model weights become more optimised for common patterns and in-distribution tasks, trading off generalisability to novel tasks.

This architecture combined with ‘internet scale’ data has produced incredible recent advances, but the next leap will come from a new paradigm – instead of outputs, models will be trained on reasoning steps…

…This new vector of scaling will rely on a combination of synthetic and human generated reasoning data. As we’ll see, both will be expensive forms of reinforcement learning (o3’s performance of 87.5% on ARC AGI in high-compute mode cost thousands of $ per task)…

…Synthetic data will be most useful for domains where functional verification is possible, e.g. code, maths and engineering…

…Scaling inference time compute is in line with the Bitter Lesson – there are only 2 techniques that scale indefinitely with compute: learning & search.

DeepMind’s AlphaGo used Monte Carlo Tree Search during test time to attain superhuman status – if stripped of this capabilities, it drops in Elo from ~5,200 to 3,000 (top humans are around ~3,800)…

…The exorbitant costs stem from the many, many Chains Of Thought generated as the model searches for the chains that lead to the right answer – all of the other tokens are useless, but cost a lot to generate…

…Functionally verifiable domains are the most amenable to synthetic CoTs because engineering the reward is much easier than in domains where subjectivity is involved…

…Code execution provides an unambiguous, binary reward signal – either the code executes successfully or it fails, creating clearly defined success criteria for training.

In functionally verifiable domains, the correct CoT tokens become training data…

…Over time, this should have a deflationary effect on the inference cost of reasoning models, as we’ve seen with frontier models in the pre-training paradigm…

…As pre-training gains plateau (or become too expensive), we’ve found a new vector of scaling (test time search) that is demonstrating a path to truly general intelligence.

Data acquisition/generation remains the bottleneck on progress, not compute. Microsoft’s announcement of $80bn in capex for 2025 underscores the Street’s underestimation of hyperscaler capex and compute buildout.

The implications of inference scaling run up and down the stack. Instead of the densely interconnected supercomputers of the pre-training paradigm, we will see more distribution of workloads, perhaps some even running locally. How will market share evolve as companies look to optimise test time search workloads – will AI ASICs eat into Nvidia market share?

Instead of prohibitively expensive pre-training runs, enterprises developing their own models may opt to train smaller models with reasoning cores and decide when to scale up test time search for certain economically valuable tasks. The result is the alchemy of capex to opex and fixed costs to variable costs. CIOs will decide which tasks merit more investment and test time search – inevitably, this will still be cheaper than human labour.

5. Don’t Freak Out – Ben Carlson

The common theme across the Apollo missions was the sheer amount of planning involved.  There were months and months of simulations and training exercises to review every possible scenario. They wanted every process to be automatic.

But there was always the risk of an unplanned error, considering they were propelling these giant hunks of metal through space using rocket fuel that would allow them to reach speeds of more than 24,000 miles per hour…

…When Apollo 13 had an explosion mid-flight, it wasn’t something anyone thought could have been even a remote possibility. Astronaut Jack Swigert explained it after the fact like this:

Nobody thought the spacecraft would lose two fuel cells and two oxygen tanks. It couldn’t happen. If somebody had thrown that at us in the simulator, we’d have said, ‘Come on, you’re not being realistic.’

This is why NASA trained the astronauts in one skill more than any other leading up to their space flights — the art of not panicking. The only reason they could turn the Apollo 13 spacecraft around 200,000 miles from earth following an explosion onboard is because the astronauts and everyone on the ground remained levelheaded. No one freaked out.

Or if they were freaking out internally, they didn’t act on those emotions.

In a nutshell, that is successful investing.

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Here are the articles for the week ending 02 February 2025:

1. DeepSeek: The View from China – Jordan Schneider, Irene Zhang, Angela Shen, and Yiwen

In this newsletter, we share a translation of insights from a January 26 closed-door session hosted by Shixiang 拾象, a VC spun out from Sequoia China. Attended by dozens of AI researchers, investors, and industry insiders, the event captures how the Chinese AI community is processing the DeepSeek shock…

…The CEO of Scale.ai said that DeepSeek has 50,000 chips, but that is definitely not reality. According to public information, DeepSeek had 10,000 old A100 chips and possibly 3,000 H800 cards before the ban. DeepSeek pays great attention to compliance and has not purchased any non-compliant GPUs, so it should have few chips. The way the United States uses GPUs is too extravagant…

…In the short-term, everyone will be driven to think about how to make AI more efficient. In the long-run, questions about computing power will remain. Demand for compute remains strong and no company has enough…

…Why did DeepSeek catch up so fast?

Reasoning models require high-quality data and training. For LLMs or multimodal AI, it’s difficult to catch up with a closed source model from scratch. The architecture of pure reasoning models hasn’t changed much, so it’s easier to catch up in reasoning.

One reason R1 caught up quickly was that the task was not particularly difficult. Reinforcement learning only made the model choices more accurate. R1 did not break through the efficiency of Consensus 32, spending 32 times the efficiency, which is equivalent to moving from deep processing to parallelization, which is not pushing the boundaries of intelligence, just making it easier….

…AI is similar to a step function, where the compute requirements for followers have decreased by a factor of 10. Followers have historically had lower compute costs, but explorers still need to train many models. The exploration of new algorithms and architectures will not stop. Behind the step function, there are significant investments by many people, meaning compute investments will continue to advance. Many resources will also be allocated to products. Apart from reasoning, there are other directions that are compute-intensive. While the vast amount of compute resources spent by explorers may not be visible, without such investment, the next “step” might not occur. Additionally, many are dissatisfied with current architectures and RL methods, and progress will continue.

When exploring directions, performance achieved with 10,000 GPUs may not always be significantly better than that of 1,000 GPUs, but there is a threshold somewhere. It’s unlikely that meaningful results can be achieved with only 100 GPUs because the iteration time for each solution would be too long…

…The question of why OpenAI and Anthropic did not do work in DeepSeek’s direction is a question of company-specific focus. OpenAI and Anthropic might have felt that investing their compute towards other areas was more valuable.

One hypothesis for why DeepSeek was successful is that unlike Big Tech firms, DeepSeek did not work on multi-modality and focused exclusively on language. Big Tech firms’ model capabilities aren’t weak, but they have to maintain a low profile and cannot release too often. Currently, multimodality is not very critical, as intelligence primarily comes from language, and multimodality does not contribute significantly to improving intelligence…

…2025 will, first and foremost, see interest in new architectures beyond Transformers. Some initial exploration is already underway, aiming to reduce costs while pushing the boundaries of intelligence. Secondly, the potential of reinforcement learning (RL) has yet to be tapped into completely. On the product side, there is significant interest in agents, though they have yet to see widespread application…

…It is reported that Meta is still in the process of reproducing DeepSeek, but so far, this has not significantly impacted their infrastructure or long-term roadmap. In the long run, beyond exploring the boundaries of the technology, cost efficiency must also be considered. Lowering costs will let us have more fun…

…From the developer’s perspective, models like Claude-3.5-Sonnet have been specifically trained for tool use, making them highly suitable for agent development. In contrast, models like DeepSeek have not yet focused on this area, but the potential for growth with DeepSeek is immense…

…Currently, reinforcement learning (RL) solves problems with standard answers but has not achieved breakthroughs beyond what AlphaZero accomplished. In fact, it is often simpler. Distillation addresses problems with standard answers, and RL methods work effectively when training with such answers. This explains why distillation and RL have made rapid progress in recent years.

Humanity’s demand for intelligence is vastly underestimated. Many critical problems, such as cancer and SpaceX’s heat shield materials, remain unsolved. Existing AI primarily automates tasks, but there are numerous unsolved challenges ahead. Looking forward, the potential for explosive growth is immense, and the advancement of intelligence cannot stop…

…Domestic Chinese companies were previously constrained by computing power, but now it’s proven that the potential technical space is vast. For more efficient models, we might not need especially large cards — we can provide relatively customized chips that can be adapted for compatibility with AMD and ASIC. From an investment perspective, Nvidia’s moat is very high, but ASIC will have yet greater opportunities.

The DeepSeek situation isn’t really about compute — it’s about America realizing China’s capabilities and efficiency. DeepSeek isn’t Nvidia’s vulnerability; Nvidia will grow as long as AI grows. Nvidia’s strength is its ecosystem, which has been built up over a long time. Indeed, when technology develops rapidly, the ecosystem is crucial. The real crisis comes, though, when technology matures like electricity: it becomes commoditized; then, everyone will focus on products, and many ASIC chips will emerge for specific scenario optimization…

…Open source controls the margins of the whole market. If open source can do 95% of what closed source can do and closed source is too expensive, then open source can be used completely. If the capabilities of open source and closed source do not differ greatly, then this presents a big challenge for closed source…

…AI explorers definitely need more computing power; China, as a follower, can leverage its engineering advantages. How Chinese large-model teams use less computing power to produce results, thereby having some definite resilience — or even doing better — might end up being how the US-China AI landscape plays out in the future.

2. Explaining International Valuations –  Daniel Rasmussen

Perhaps the single greatest divergence in equity markets has been the continued outperformance of US versus international equities—and thus the widening of the valuation gap between the US and the rest of the world…

…By far the most significant difference, explaining about half the valuation gap, is the domicile of listing. US-listed stocks are substantially more expensive than internationally listed stocks for no reason other than the place of listing.

It’s particularly interesting that the regression shows having a higher percentage of sales in the US results in cheaper valuations. A key driver of this is that several of the US tech giants most responsible for high US equity valuations having a relatively low percentage of sales in the US (Alphabet, Microsoft, and Tesla at around 50%; Apple, Netflix, Meta, and NVIDIA at around 40%). The big question, then, is why half the valuation gap is explained simply by being listed on US exchanges. Even large internationally listed companies with >40% of their revenue coming from the US, like Toyota, Mitsubishi, Roche or Deutsche Telekom (which owns T-Mobile), trade at steep value multiples relative to US peers.

Were a larger percentage of the valuation gap explained by fundamentals, we’d expect such a gap to persist. But given that the valuation gap is primarily explained simply by the location of listing, we think there’s a strong reason to expect a convergence—and therefore to favor international over US-listed stocks, despite their terrible relative performance over the past decade.

3. The Most Impressive Prediction of All Time – Jeffrey Emanuel

My candidate for the most impressive prediction of all time came from a person who is practically unknown in the West except for a relatively small group of historians and people interested in niche subjects. The person I’m thinking of is named Pyotr Durnovo, and he was an Imperial Russian government official who lived from 1842 to 1915.

We will discuss more about him later and how his life experience may have prepared him to be able to make such an impressive prediction, but the short version of it is that he initially studied to be in the Navy and served there for around a decade, and then became the Director of Police for the Ministry of Internal Affairs for the entire Russian Empire under Tsar Alexander III. Later, he served as the Minister of the Interior under Tsar Nicholas II (the one who was ultimately executed with his family by the Bolsheviks in 1917 during the Russian Revolution).

So what is this prediction he made, anyway, and why is it so impressive? Well, in 1914, six months prior to the outbreak of World War 1, Durnovo wrote a truly remarkable ~7,600-word memorandum for Tsar Nicholas II and his top 2 or 3 ministers, which we know was given to them, since it was found in Nicholas’ papers and later published in 1922 by communist historians after the revolution. If they had only read it carefully and took its warnings more seriously, the world we live in today might look very different!…

…For one, it predicted an imminent war on the horizon, which he ultimately blamed on the collision course between England and Germany, which were the two greatest industrial powers at the time. This was certainly not some earth shattering or special prediction; a lot of people predicted some kind of big conflict, and it was often said that “war was in the air” at the time…

…It’s how he analyzed the situation, and then used that reasoning to predict the exact groupings of countries that would participate in the conflict and on which side, and how the situation would evolve from there, that is so impressive…

…His predictions about alliances and national behaviors were almost unbelievably specific and ran counter to the conventional wisdom of the time:

• He predicted that Italy would not side with Germany despite being part of the Triple Alliance, and would instead join the opposing side if victory seemed likely, seeking territory from both Austria and Turkey. This is exactly what happened; Italy joined the Allies in 1915 after negotiating for territorial concessions.
• He predicted that Romania would remain neutral until it was clear which side would win, then join the victorious side to claim territory. This also came true— Romania entered the war in 1916 on the Allied side after significant Russian successes.
• Most surprsingly, he predicted that Bulgaria would side against Serbia and by extension against Russia, despite Russia being Bulgaria’s historic liberator from Ottoman rule— a prediction that seemed almost unthinkable to most observers at the time. This came true exactly as he foresaw, with Bulgaria joining the Central Powers in 1915.
• He correctly predicted that Serbia and Montenegro would side against Austria, while Greece would likely remain neutral until the outcome was more or less predetermined.
• He predicted unrest among Muslims in the Caucasus and Turkestan (which occurred).
• He predicted the possibility of Afghanistan moving against Russia (which happened in 1919).
• He predicted serious complications in Poland (the Polish-Soviet War of 1919-1921).
• He predicted an uprising in Finland if Sweden joined Germany (Finland did declare independence in 1917)…

…If all of that weren’t already so ridiculous to get right, he went way beyond all that to realize that, regardless of who won, the war would lead to “social revolution” in both the defeated AND victorious countries, starting with the losing side and then spreading to the winners. This was perhaps his most extraordinary prediction, as it came true in spectacular fashion:

• Russia, despite being on the winning side, experienced the Bolshevik Revolution in 1917; we will go into much more detail about these predictions below.
• Germany, after losing the war, experienced the German Revolution of 1918-1919; Durnovo predicted that unrest and revolution would be specifically tied to economic factors and class interests rather than purely political ones: he outlined how German workers would turn against the agricultural interests that had dominated pre-war German policy once defeat cut off their export markets and industrial employment, and this exact dynamic played out in the German Revolution of 1918-1919.

Now, you might object here that “Well, it’s not that crazy to believe there might be a revolution in a country which suffered massive losses in a catastrophic war; lots of people might have predicted that.” But the thing is, Durnovo went so far beyond merely predicting that there would be a Russian Revolution. He basically predicted every contour of the Revolution, the driving forces behind it, how it impacted different segments of Russian society, and how it would all unfold, step by step!…

…So how was Durnovo able to accomplish this incredible feat of prediction? Obviously, he was a genius of the first order, which is perhaps not so surprising given that he was a close relative of the famous Tolstoy family. But raw IQ is certainly not enough, nor is being well informed and knowledgeable. What kind of man could see so clearly what virtually everyone else missed? He was a complex character whose very contradictions likely enabled his extraordinary insights; he was, at the same time:

• A conservative police chief who often expressed liberal thoughts in private
• A supposed reactionary who opposed anti-Semitic measures and defended Jews
• A cynical operator who nevertheless would help others when he could
• A man capable of both strict officialdom and surprising gentleness
• A high official who preferred informal interactions (his subordinates would warn visitors not to address him as “Your Excellency”)

These contradictions suggest someone who wasn’t bound by conventional ideological frameworks or social expectations— a crucial trait for seeing beyond accepted wisdom. He also had a wide range of professional experience that prepared him to see things in a multi-faceted, sophisticated way, as by 1915, he had done the following:

• Naval officer (9 years of far-sea cruises)
• Military legal training
• Assistant Prosecutor in various parts of Russia
• Director of Police Department for 10 years
• Assistant Minister of Interior under multiple ministers
• Minister of Interior
• Member of State Council

This combination of experiences was extraordinary and atypical to say the least:

• His naval and legal background gave him insight into the military, maritime trade, and the Russian legal system.
• His prosecutorial work exposed him to conditions across Russia, not just in the big cities.
• His police work gave him unparalleled insight into social discontent and the strategies and thinking of professional revolutionaries like Lenin, Stalin, and Trotsky.
• His ministerial positions showed him the workings (and limitations) of state power.

He also occupied a unique position as both an insider and an outsider: 

• He was from old nobility but not wealthy or particularly influential
• He reached high office but was temporarily dismissed in disgrace (a sordid story in which Durnovo had his secret police officers search the private letters of a foreign ambassador— inside an embassy building no less— so they could steal love letters sent by Durnovo’s mistress to the ambassador; when the ambassador complained to Tsar Alexander III, he was furious, ordering his minister to “remove this swine within twenty-four hours.”)
• He was a conservative who often disagreed with other conservatives
• He understood both state power and its limitations

This dual perspective may have freed him from the groupthink that afflicted both conservative and liberal circles.

4. USA, Inc – Michael Batnick

Consider this face blower of a stat from Goldman: “Since 1992, earnings growth in the US has outpaced earnings in non-US developed economies by an annual average of 2.4 percentage points.”

Most of the world is barely earning more than they were prior to the pandemic. The U.S. looks like an unstoppable freight train…

…The one sided performance has driven valuations between us and the rest of the world to record levels. We’ve all seen a version of these charts before…

…BUT! These charts aren’t comparing apples with apples. Goldman notes that only 1% of the U.K. market is in technology companies. Another example they cite is that energy is 5% of S&P 500 earnings, 19% of UK, and just 1% of Japan. We’re not comparing apples with apples.

They did a great job adjusting for differences in sector weights…

…The U.S. still trades at a premium to the rest of the world ex-India, but not as much as the prior chart would have you believe. Before any adjustments, the Eurozone trades at a 39% discount to the U.S. And after the adjustments, that falls to 23%.

5. DeepSeek FAQ – Ben Thompson

Let’s work backwards: what was the V2 model, and why was it important?

The DeepSeek-V2 model introduced two important breakthroughs: DeepSeekMoE and DeepSeekMLA. The “MoE” in DeepSeekMoE refers to “mixture of experts”. Some models, like GPT-3.5, activate the entire model during both training and inference; it turns out, however, that not every part of the model is necessary for the topic at hand. MoE splits the model into multiple “experts” and only activates the ones that are necessary; GPT-4 was a MoE model that was believed to have 16 experts with approximately 110 billion parameters each.

DeepSeekMoE, as implemented in V2, introduced important innovations on this concept, including differentiating between more finely-grained specialized experts, and shared experts with more generalized capabilities. Critically, DeepSeekMoE also introduced new approaches to load-balancing and routing during training; traditionally MoE increased communications overhead in training in exchange for efficient inference, but DeepSeek’s approach made training more efficient as well.

DeepSeekMLA was an even bigger breakthrough. One of the biggest limitations on inference is the sheer amount of memory required: you both need to load the model into memory and also load the entire context window. Context windows are particularly expensive in terms of memory, as every token requires both a key and corresponding value; DeepSeekMLA, or multi-head latent attention, makes it possible to compress the key-value store, dramatically decreasing memory usage during inference.

I’m not sure I understood any of that.

The key implications of these breakthroughs — and the part you need to understand — only became apparent with V3, which added a new approach to load balancing (further reducing communications overhead) and multi-token prediction in training (further densifying each training step, again reducing overhead): V3 was shockingly cheap to train. DeepSeek claimed the model training took 2,788 thousand H800 GPU hours, which, at a cost of $2/GPU hour, comes out to a mere $5.576 million.

That seems impossibly low.

DeepSeek is clear that these costs are only for the final training run, and exclude all other expenses; from the V3 paper:

Lastly, we emphasize again the economical training costs of DeepSeek-V3, summarized in Table 1, achieved through our optimized co-design of algorithms, frameworks, and hardware. During the pre-training stage, training DeepSeek-V3 on each trillion tokens requires only 180K H800 GPU hours, i.e., 3.7 days on our cluster with 2048 H800 GPUs. Consequently, our pre- training stage is completed in less than two months and costs 2664K GPU hours. Combined with 119K GPU hours for the context length extension and 5K GPU hours for post-training, DeepSeek-V3 costs only 2.788M GPU hours for its full training. Assuming the rental price of the H800 GPU is $2 per GPU hour, our total training costs amount to only $5.576M. Note that the aforementioned costs include only the official training of DeepSeek-V3, excluding the costs associated with prior research and ablation experiments on architectures, algorithms, or data.

So no, you can’t replicate DeepSeek the company for $5.576 million.

I still don’t believe that number.

Actually, the burden of proof is on the doubters, at least once you understand the V3 architecture. Remember that bit about DeepSeekMoE: V3 has 671 billion parameters, but only 37 billion parameters in the active expert are computed per token; this equates to 333.3 billion FLOPs of compute per token. Here I should mention another DeepSeek innovation: while parameters were stored with BF16 or FP32 precision, they were reduced to FP8 precision for calculations; 2048 H800 GPUs have a capacity of 3.97 exoflops, i.e. 3.97 billion billion FLOPS. The training set, meanwhile, consisted of 14.8 trillion tokens; once you do all of the math it becomes apparent that 2.8 million H800 hours is sufficient for training V3. Again, this was just the final run, not the total cost, but it’s a plausible number.

Scale AI CEO Alexandr Wang said they have 50,000 H100s.

I don’t know where Wang got his information; I’m guessing he’s referring to this November 2024 tweet from Dylan Patel, which says that DeepSeek had “over 50k Hopper GPUs”. H800s, however, are Hopper GPUs, they just have much more constrained memory bandwidth than H100s because of U.S. sanctions.

Here’s the thing: a huge number of the innovations I explained above are about overcoming the lack of memory bandwidth implied in using H800s instead of H100s. Moreover, if you actually did the math on the previous question, you would realize that DeepSeek actually had an excess of computing; that’s because DeepSeek actually programmed 20 of the 132 processing units on each H800 specifically to manage cross-chip communications. This is actually impossible to do in CUDA. DeepSeek engineers had to drop down to PTX, a low-level instruction set for Nvidia GPUs that is basically like assembly language. This is an insane level of optimization that only makes sense if you are using H800s.

Meanwhile, DeepSeek also makes their models available for inference: that requires a whole bunch of GPUs above-and-beyond whatever was used for training…

…Is this why all of the Big Tech stock prices are down?

In the long run, model commoditization and cheaper inference — which DeepSeek has also demonstrated — is great for Big Tech. A world where Microsoft gets to provide inference to its customers for a fraction of the cost means that Microsoft has to spend less on data centers and GPUs, or, just as likely, sees dramatically higher usage given that inference is so much cheaper. Another big winner is Amazon: AWS has by-and-large failed to make their own quality model, but that doesn’t matter if there are very high quality open source models that they can serve at far lower costs than expected.

Apple is also a big winner. Dramatically decreased memory requirements for inference make edge inference much more viable, and Apple has the best hardware for exactly that. Apple Silicon uses unified memory, which means that the CPU, GPU, and NPU (neural processing unit) have access to a shared pool of memory; this means that Apple’s high-end hardware actually has the best consumer chip for inference (Nvidia gaming GPUs max out at 32GB of VRAM, while Apple’s chips go up to 192 GB of RAM).

Meta, meanwhile, is the biggest winner of all. I already laid out last fall how every aspect of Meta’s business benefits from AI; a big barrier to realizing that vision is the cost of inference, which means that dramatically cheaper inference — and dramatically cheaper training, given the need for Meta to stay on the cutting edge — makes that vision much more achievable.

Google, meanwhile, is probably in worse shape: a world of decreased hardware requirements lessens the relative advantage they have from TPUs. More importantly, a world of zero-cost inference increases the viability and likelihood of products that displace search; granted, Google gets lower costs as well, but any change from the status quo is probably a net negative…

...How did DeepSeek make R1?

DeepSeek actually made two models: R1 and R1-Zero. I actually think that R1-Zero is the bigger deal…

…R1-Zero, however, drops the HF part — it’s just reinforcement learning. DeepSeek gave the model a set of math, code, and logic questions, and set two reward functions: one for the right answer, and one for the right format that utilized a thinking process. Moreover, the technique was a simple one: instead of trying to evaluate step-by-step (process supervision), or doing a search of all possible answers (a la AlphaGo), DeepSeek encouraged the model to try several different answers at a time and then graded them according to the two reward functions.

What emerged is a model that developed reasoning and chains-of-thought on its own…

…Here again it seems plausible that DeepSeek benefited from distillation, particularly in terms of training R1. That, though, is itself an important takeaway: we have a situation where AI models are teaching AI models, and where AI models are teaching themselves.

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